Hello,
so, similar to our previous single-family house project, we are now starting the planning for the multi-family house. The title was deliberately chosen to be the same as the single-family house thread.
https://www.hausbau-forum.de/threads/baubericht-einfamilienhaus-1200-eur-m.35362/
So far, we have purchased an old carpentry workshop that will be demolished.
On February 16th, the building inquiry already submitted will be discussed by the municipal council. The question concerns the development with 3 full floors and a flat roof.
At first, I found a floor plan that I quite like and whose dimensions almost fit perfectly.

I’m still unsure about the elevator and whether it’s really worth the $30,000 (offer from Kone). Possibly, we will prepare the shaft for later installation if accessibility becomes necessary. The toilets would be removed to save costs.

so, similar to our previous single-family house project, we are now starting the planning for the multi-family house. The title was deliberately chosen to be the same as the single-family house thread.
https://www.hausbau-forum.de/threads/baubericht-einfamilienhaus-1200-eur-m.35362/
So far, we have purchased an old carpentry workshop that will be demolished.
On February 16th, the building inquiry already submitted will be discussed by the municipal council. The question concerns the development with 3 full floors and a flat roof.
At first, I found a floor plan that I quite like and whose dimensions almost fit perfectly.
I’m still unsure about the elevator and whether it’s really worth the $30,000 (offer from Kone). Possibly, we will prepare the shaft for later installation if accessibility becomes necessary. The toilets would be removed to save costs.
Nemesis schrieb:
Yes, this really isn’t unimportant because it’s widely discussed at informal meetings. I just explained this in detail in the other thread (I think I linked you there 😉 ), we almost planned differently because of it. I simply want to help those planning to build in a similar situation. Often, this doesn’t help much unless you’re willing to take legal action and have a lot of time.
A flat roof surrounded by pitched roofs was rejected in our case, and we were discreetly told, "Just sue."
icandoit schrieb:
The parking situation has been problematic from the start. The compromise is 2 floors plus an attic, which allows for 8 residential units.
But there are still not enough parking spaces.That’s how it looks.
The municipal council has now postponed the project to the local council, which only met on 02.02.2020 (February 2, 2020).
So far, there is no new date 😡
I submitted the preliminary inquiry on 01.11 (November 1)...
After half a year, I finally received the written response to the preliminary inquiry.
The new idea is to reduce the dimensions and have 2 full floors plus a half attic with knee walls and a pitched roof.
What are your opinions? The houses on the other side of the street also have 2 full floors plus an attic.


The new idea is to reduce the dimensions and have 2 full floors plus a half attic with knee walls and a pitched roof.
What are your opinions? The houses on the other side of the street also have 2 full floors plus an attic.
So the blue house actually has 3 full stories, and I would also consider the green and yellow ones as having 3 full stories (even if the mansard roof visually softens that).
The letter from the municipality seems, in my opinion, to lean towards reducing floor area ratio to preserve a more open style of development. I would therefore first try to reduce the floor space index.
From the previous description, I understand that no basement is planned. Maybe a concept with a large apartment on the ground floor (4 rooms with garden), 2–3 smaller apartments on the upper floor (2 rooms), and another 4-room apartment in the attic, possibly a setback story (penthouse), or 2 x 2-room units.
Lately, 3-room apartments are no longer really considered family flats but rather dwellings for high-earning couples. They might prefer to move to a nearby city. Families connected to the area or lower-income singles working locally would be your main clients for the 4-room and 2-room apartments. According to this reasoning, that would mean 7 parking spaces.
P.S.: Nice Porsche ;-)
The letter from the municipality seems, in my opinion, to lean towards reducing floor area ratio to preserve a more open style of development. I would therefore first try to reduce the floor space index.
From the previous description, I understand that no basement is planned. Maybe a concept with a large apartment on the ground floor (4 rooms with garden), 2–3 smaller apartments on the upper floor (2 rooms), and another 4-room apartment in the attic, possibly a setback story (penthouse), or 2 x 2-room units.
Lately, 3-room apartments are no longer really considered family flats but rather dwellings for high-earning couples. They might prefer to move to a nearby city. Families connected to the area or lower-income singles working locally would be your main clients for the 4-room and 2-room apartments. According to this reasoning, that would mean 7 parking spaces.
P.S.: Nice Porsche ;-)
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