ᐅ Planning the Main Bathroom with a Wall-Mounted Installation System
Created on: 25 Jul 2019 14:52
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chrisw81
Dear forum members,
Unfortunately, our architect made a mistake in a very awkward spot in the house, in the main bathroom upstairs, where in my opinion symmetry and harmony are especially important.
From the utility room below, the exhaust duct of the gas condensing boiler runs straight up the gable wall right in the middle of the room. This creates a protrusion in the center of the wall. The general contractor’s idea is simply to build a drywall partition up to the eaves side. This results in a “half” wall.
I have been trying to figure out the best way to conceal this area for some time.
On the adjacent eaves wall, the toilet and bathtub are to be placed (as well as a radiator).
I have simulated various options in 3D.
Basic idea:
The drywall partition should either be functional or visually appealing and not look like a closed “half” wall.
I would preferably like to create a shelf behind the bathtub. The drywall partition next to the toilet could be used to install a concealed cistern module. Furthermore, I would like to pick up the height of the shelf and also create shelving within the partition, preferably with shelves above, which are not shown in the 3D simulation—please imagine these shelves.
I have also simulated other options without shelving, as well as different arrangements of the toilet and bathtub.
Currently, I like option 1 or 6 best.
Perhaps you have a great idea on how to make the best of this situation.
Thanks in advance!
Unfortunately, our architect made a mistake in a very awkward spot in the house, in the main bathroom upstairs, where in my opinion symmetry and harmony are especially important.
From the utility room below, the exhaust duct of the gas condensing boiler runs straight up the gable wall right in the middle of the room. This creates a protrusion in the center of the wall. The general contractor’s idea is simply to build a drywall partition up to the eaves side. This results in a “half” wall.
I have been trying to figure out the best way to conceal this area for some time.
On the adjacent eaves wall, the toilet and bathtub are to be placed (as well as a radiator).
I have simulated various options in 3D.
Basic idea:
The drywall partition should either be functional or visually appealing and not look like a closed “half” wall.
I would preferably like to create a shelf behind the bathtub. The drywall partition next to the toilet could be used to install a concealed cistern module. Furthermore, I would like to pick up the height of the shelf and also create shelving within the partition, preferably with shelves above, which are not shown in the 3D simulation—please imagine these shelves.
I have also simulated other options without shelving, as well as different arrangements of the toilet and bathtub.
Currently, I like option 1 or 6 best.
Perhaps you have a great idea on how to make the best of this situation.
Thanks in advance!
kaho674 schrieb:
Yes, that’s why I asked how far along they are with the pipe. Maybe it’s still possible to “reroute” it or drill through the ceiling at a different spot from below. Nowadays, making such a hole isn’t a big deal anymore. I would put this planning error straight on the general contractor’s complaint list so they have to cover the costs. Rerouting is only partially possible. They now want to add an elbow at the ceiling so that the pipe can run along the wall. The casing would then be quite narrow, but this “reroute” would of course always be visible.
Ideally, I would have preferred if they had drilled through the ceiling at another location. But they would have had to do that last week when they made the other core drillings for the ventilation ducts. Unfortunately, the idea to relocate the gas boiler and thus also the exhaust pipe to a different location only occurred to me after that. :-(
The plumber installing the exhaust pipe also said what poor planning this is—no one installs an exhaust pipe in a bathroom.
What costs should the general contractor cover in this case? I was already aware of the original plan.
We had similar issues. A pipe came down through the lower guest bathroom from above and unfortunately had to run across the ceiling because the original plan was no longer feasible (forgot why). The architect looked quite guilty. We then agreed that he would take care of the entire cladding including the spotlights. Now it looks as if the lighting had always been planned that way.
In your case, it’s similar. The original position no longer works because of the rafter. So I would keep working on it until I find an acceptable solution and then include that in the builder’s bill.
In your case, it’s similar. The original position no longer works because of the rafter. So I would keep working on it until I find an acceptable solution and then include that in the builder’s bill.
kaho674 schrieb:
We agreed that he would take care of the entire cladding including the spotlights. Now it looks as if the lighting had always been planned that way.Show us.chrisw81 schrieb:
The plumber installing the exhaust pipe also said what poor planning it is; nobody installs such an exhaust pipe in a bathroom.Is the exhaust pipe the one being discussed here (specifically the part where it has to be rerouted around the rafter)?https://www.instagram.com/11antgmxde/
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kaho674 schrieb:
We had similar issues. A pipe came down from above through the lower guest bathroom and unfortunately had to run across the ceiling because the original plan no longer worked (I forgot why). The architect looked pretty guilty. We agreed that he would take care of the entire ceiling cladding, including the spotlights. Now it looks as if the lighting was always planned that way.
Your situation is similar. The original position is no longer possible due to the rafter. So I would keep thinking until I find an acceptable solution and then charge it to the general contractor’s bill. I’ll take a look on site tomorrow, hopefully after the pipe has been installed.
It would be really unfortunate if the bend is positioned in the room where you could bump your head or if it looks awkward. Then you can’t just “dress it up” like you did with the spotlights. I wouldn’t mind something like that, but from what the plumber said, you’d have to chase into the wall about 50cm (20 inches) to hide everything. I also don’t want to have a pipe or a bulkhead in my bathroom that’s almost at head height. But I’ll see tomorrow.
I’ll also take a photo and post it here.
11ant schrieb:
Is the flue pipe the one we’re talking about here (specifically when offsetting it around the rafter)?Yes, exactly, the one in the middle of the gable wall in the bathroom. Next to the washbasin, there is also a vent pipe for wastewater, which would of course need to be offset as well, but that is at a different height. The flue pipe goes through the ceiling at about 2.2–2.3 m (7 ft 3 in–7 ft 7 in), so still within the roof slope.
chrisw81 schrieb:
Yes, exactly, the one in the middle of the gable wall in the bathroom.Then the fool who planned this should close the ceiling opening again and have the pipe pass through the exterior wall already on the ground floor, running it up in front of the roof overhang. Unfortunately, it can’t be routed through the attic because it would be in the window reveal area. But redirecting it with three sharp bends is simply not visually suitable for a new build.https://www.instagram.com/11antgmxde/
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