ᐅ Planning the Main Bathroom with a Wall-Mounted Installation System

Created on: 25 Jul 2019 14:52
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chrisw81
Dear forum members,

Unfortunately, our architect made a mistake in a very awkward spot in the house, in the main bathroom upstairs, where in my opinion symmetry and harmony are especially important.
From the utility room below, the exhaust duct of the gas condensing boiler runs straight up the gable wall right in the middle of the room. This creates a protrusion in the center of the wall. The general contractor’s idea is simply to build a drywall partition up to the eaves side. This results in a “half” wall.
I have been trying to figure out the best way to conceal this area for some time.

On the adjacent eaves wall, the toilet and bathtub are to be placed (as well as a radiator).

I have simulated various options in 3D.
Basic idea:
The drywall partition should either be functional or visually appealing and not look like a closed “half” wall.
I would preferably like to create a shelf behind the bathtub. The drywall partition next to the toilet could be used to install a concealed cistern module. Furthermore, I would like to pick up the height of the shelf and also create shelving within the partition, preferably with shelves above, which are not shown in the 3D simulation—please imagine these shelves.
I have also simulated other options without shelving, as well as different arrangements of the toilet and bathtub.
Currently, I like option 1 or 6 best.

Perhaps you have a great idea on how to make the best of this situation.

Thanks in advance!

Grundriss eines Hauses: Kind 1, Kind 2, Schlafen, Bad, Flur, Abstellraum; Türen und Treppen.


Badezimmer mit Badewanne, Duscharmatur, Toilette und Fenster, helle Gestaltung.


Helles Badezimmer mit Badewanne, Duschkopf, Fenster und grauen Fliesen.


Modernes Badezimmer mit schräger Decke, Badewanne, Duschkopf, grauen Fliesen und Fensterblick.


Helles Badezimmer im Dachgeschoss mit Badewanne, Duscharm, Toilette und Fenster.


Badezimmer mit langer Badewanne, Duschkopf am Rand, graue Fliesen und Fenster mit Blick nach draußen.


Badezimmer mit Badewanne, Duschkopf am Schlauch, graue Fliesen, Fenster rechts.


Badezimmer mit Dachschräge: Badewanne, Dusche, Toilette, Handtuchheizkörper und Fenster.
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ypg
25 Jul 2019 22:09
Option 5 is my favorite.
I don’t like having two different shelf heights around the bathtub and prefer it if the surface is flush all the way around.
The "niche" next to the toilet could be highlighted with a bold accent color or a mosaic wall, but these tiles would need to be repeated somewhere else, for example behind the bathtub. That way, the accent would appear on the actual rear walls.
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chrisw81
26 Jul 2019 10:25
11ant schrieb:

As a sit-down urinator, I wouldn’t notice the difference between versions 6 and 1, since I don’t have eyes in the back

True, but if you’re standing in the room, it might be noticeable—though only if you really look closely
11ant schrieb:

Good gracious—just tile all the way up to the box between the toilet and the window, otherwise it looks odd. How can someone think of such an aesthetic mistake when they’re otherwise so keen on symmetry?

I actually want to tile as little as possible and was planning not to tile the short side of the bathtub. That’s why I thought it would look better not to tile the opposite wall (the false wall next to the toilet) either. Like in the attached example photo.

Maybe you’re right, and in the case where the false wall next to the toilet ends, it might be better to tile there. But only up to the height where the open section begins (that could be about 90cm (35 inches) high)? I would then apply the same consistent height behind the toilet and behind the bathtub.

Bright bathroom with wall-hung toilet, bathtub, decorative box with candles, plant, and towels.
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chrisw81
26 Jul 2019 10:30
ypg schrieb:

Option 5 is my favorite.
I don’t like having two different shelf heights next to the bathtub and think it looks better if the surface is level all around.
The "niche" beside the toilet could be highlighted with a bold accent color or a mosaic wall, but these tiles should be repeated somewhere else, for example behind the bathtub. That way, the accent would be on the actual rear walls.

I’ve also noticed that having two different heights could look awkward. If the bathtub were placed directly against the raised shelf, it might be different, but as it is, there’s first a "shelf" with the bathtub faucet and then another shelf beyond that. Especially since the raised shelf has a different depth than the stud wall behind the toilet, which creates an additional corner.
Maybe it really looks better to have just one large shelf.

I also like the "niche," although I would prefer to hide the toilet brush and similar items in a built-in recessed cabinet, which the continuous stud wall would allow.
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chrisw81
26 Jul 2019 10:44
Yesterday, I came up with another idea that I would like to discuss.
The washbasin is planned to be placed on the wall opposite the toilet, and next to it there will be another pipe duct for the wastewater and ventilation pipes, located right at the inner corner between the interior wall and the exterior gable wall. Of course, this pipe duct is also intrusive.

Would it perhaps make sense to move the entire gable wall forward? (see shaded area in the picture) You could then also install niches in various places (under the window, slightly higher next to the toilet) or recessed elements (next to the toilet).
The only question is whether the window might then appear set too far back. The windowsill would, of course, be extended all the way forward, making it quite deep. I really can’t imagine how it would look.
With this solution, you would avoid all the corners on the gable side and it would look like a “normal” wall, although the window would appear to be installed very deeply.

Bright bathroom with sloped ceiling, window, vanity cabinet, and toilet.


Bright bathroom with sloped ceiling on the left, window in the middle, washbasin on the right, toilet on the left.
11ant26 Jul 2019 14:17
chrisw81 schrieb:

I actually want to use as few tiles as possible, so I initially thought not to tile the short side of the bathtub. That’s why I thought it might look better not to tile the opposite side either (the stud wall next to the toilet).

Apart from the fact that you can’t really tell—especially since in your pictures even the sloped area is tiled—you’re taking things to the extreme by insisting on creating the same flaw on the opposite side just for the sake of symmetry.
chrisw81 schrieb:

Would it perhaps make sense, then, to build out the entire gable wall?

Read that very carefully again. You want to build the entire wall flush with the detested boxed-in areas—are you by chance using whatever stuff they’re smoking in @goalkeepers’ municipal building department?
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chrisw81
26 Jul 2019 14:34
11ant schrieb:

Aside from the fact that you can’t predict this – especially since in your pictures even the slope is tiled – you’re taking it too far by “consistently” applying a defect on one side symmetrically to the opposite side.

Okay, I didn’t think it looked tiled in the pictures – it’s just a 3D simulation without wall fittings.
On the washbasin side, I would like to tile behind the washbasin, up to a height of 1.20m (4 feet).
Also, in the shower (height about 2.2m (7 feet 3 inches) or so).
On the bathtub/toilet side, I want a different tile height than 1.20m (4 feet); otherwise, it would look too uniform or like a “bathtub area.” In any case, the slope will definitely not be tiled; I was thinking of about 90cm (3 feet) to align with the window sill height.

And I don’t see it as a defect if the short side of the bathtub isn’t tiled—I believe the era of fully tiled bathrooms is over. But I’m still considering it; maybe the short side could be tiled up to 90cm (3 feet).
Of course, next to the toilet, it’s also possible to tile the pre-wall construction up to the cutout—so again, up to 90cm (3 feet) high.
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Read it all slowly again yourself. You want to “build out” the entire wall flush with the hated boxed-in sections – by any chance, are you taking the same stuff that @goalkeepers’ building authority at city hall smokes?

What’s wrong with that? This way you get a flush wall without projections, visible pipe boxing, etc.
Only the window is a bit recessed – I can’t really judge if that will look odd; you’d have to see it in person.
Even the pipe boxing left of the washbasin is already disturbing; overall, I find the entire gable wall with its constant recesses and protrusions very visually busy. That completely disappears when using the flush pre-wall construction.