ᐅ Planning kitchen appliances: How to approach it. The market is overwhelming.

Created on: 11 Sep 2017 12:34
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G-Star1988
Hello everyone,

I have an appointment at the kitchen studio next Saturday and I’m preparing for it. Specifically, I’m looking for the appliances I want to have later in the kitchen. I’ve been researching a lot from brands like Neff / Siemens, Miele, Bora, etc., but I’m not making much progress.

For example, the current selection at Siemens looks like this:

Dishwasher IQ300 SN636X03MD
Oven IQ700 HB634GBS1
Microwave IQ500 HF15M264
Cooktop with integrated downdraft extractor EX801LX34E
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2 x Cooktop IQ700 EX375FXB1E with extractor IQ700 LF16VA570

(The cooktop with integrated downdraft is the only fixed requirement, unfortunately I don’t have any influence on that ^^)

I actually value quality, energy efficiency, and a balanced price-performance ratio. But how can I find out if what you pick is really good? Or if there are possibly cheaper but equally high-quality products from other manufacturers. For example, the cooktop with integrated downdraft extractor from Miele—according to the catalog, it’s cheaper but just as good or even better?

How do you approach this?
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Egon12
20 Sep 2017 13:33
I can't even tell you, I've gotten used to it being harder to do. Using pliers was probably an overkill, but with wet hands, nothing works there.
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daniels87
20 Nov 2017 13:49
My induction cooktop has failed again. I had repaired it once before, but now I don’t want to fix it anymore. (so much for the brand, AEG)

Right now, I’m thinking about what to buy next. My current favorite is the Siemens EX975LVC1E. It has 5 cooking zones, plenty of space, some nice features, and most importantly: an 11kW power rating.

However, this also means I’ll need to adjust the cabinet carcasses a bit, since I have 80cm (31.5 inches) Ikea base cabinets. That also means the countertop on the kitchen island will have to be removed again.

An 80cm (31.5 inches) cooktop would probably be the better choice, but with the required features (5 zones, about 11kW), those models are too expensive for me.
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hanse987
21 Nov 2017 17:12
Before cutting the cabinets, first check if the new panel will interfere with the drawers or anything else.

Why does the countertop need to be removed? Although I don’t know your exact installation situation, the extension can usually be done with the right tools without removing the countertop. In my case, we cut the cabinet a few weeks ago without taking off the countertop.

I spent several months researching and finally settled on Neff. Bosch/Siemens was also an option, but I really like the TwistPad control. For example, there is this 80cm (32 inch) Neff T58BT20N0 cooktop available online at a reasonable price. It only has about 7.5 kW output.
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chand1986
21 Nov 2017 17:29
I have a Neff 80 cm (31.5 inches) cooktop, and the lower power output is noticeable in about 60 seconds—the three liters of water for pasta take slightly longer to reach boiling point. Marginal difference. High-temperature frying still works perfectly, even up to charring.

If you cook a lot, having 5 burners on a 60 cm (23.6 inches) cooktop is of limited use since pots and pans tend to get in each other's way.

I would always recommend the 80 cm (31.5 inches) model—if the higher price has to be compensated by less power, the extra space more than makes up for it!
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Knallkörper
21 Nov 2017 17:32
I also have an 80 cm (31.5 inches) Neff with a twist pad and am very satisfied. What’s the use of an 11 kW connection rating if the cooktops constantly “cycle” due to insufficient cooling? Nothing. With Neff, at least it heats continuously, which makes a much bigger difference.
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daniels87
21 Nov 2017 17:37
Yes, I might also be able to manage it with the multitool without removing the countertop. The cooktop requires 825 mm (32.5 inches) in width and 51 mm (2 inches) in height. The countertop is 35 mm (1.4 inches) thick. That means I need to modify the side panels of the adjacent cabinets slightly.