ᐅ Planning / Architect, Involvement of Specialist Designers for Approval Drawings
Created on: 24 Feb 2015 08:27
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DaLinux
Hello everyone,
our architect would like to include HVAC and electrical engineers as specialist planners for the building permit / planning permission phase. The reasoning behind this is, for example, that the structural engineer needs to know what will be embedded in a concrete ceiling.
However, I don’t have an electrician or plumbing contractor yet. The tender is still to come. To me, this seems like a classic chicken-and-egg problem.
How is this usually handled?
Thanks for your help.
our architect would like to include HVAC and electrical engineers as specialist planners for the building permit / planning permission phase. The reasoning behind this is, for example, that the structural engineer needs to know what will be embedded in a concrete ceiling.
However, I don’t have an electrician or plumbing contractor yet. The tender is still to come. To me, this seems like a classic chicken-and-egg problem.
How is this usually handled?
Thanks for your help.
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Bauexperte25 Feb 2015 12:36Hello,
Edit:
Of course, you can also have the system installer (final supplier of the ventilation system) create the ventilation plan.
Best regards, Bauexperte
DaLinux schrieb:So you want to install a mechanical ventilation system with heat recovery. Basically, I don’t think the architect’s idea is wrong, especially if he has little experience with ventilation systems. The problem for you is that building services engineering (HVAC, plumbing, and electrical) is not yet widely established for typical single-family home construction, and as a result, it will be disproportionately expensive.
Our architect would like to involve HVAC and electrical engineers as specialist planners for the permit planning stage. He explained that, for example, the structural engineer needs to know what will be embedded in a concrete slab.
DaLinux schrieb:You don’t actually have this problem at the moment because the building services planner will work on a computer and run their software calculations. It doesn’t matter to them whether you have finally chosen an electrician or plumber. For now, the only important thing for them is to know that you plan to install a mechanical ventilation system.
But I don’t have an electrician or plumbing contractor yet. The tender will come later. For me, this feels like a classic chicken-and-egg problem.
Edit:
Of course, you can also have the system installer (final supplier of the ventilation system) create the ventilation plan.
Best regards, Bauexperte
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Bauexperte25 Feb 2015 14:15Hello,
Building a house costs money and requires decisions. I don’t really understand your problem here. When you buy a car, you can’t just decide the seat color at the “wedding” (final meeting), because by then the seats are already in stock.
If you feel unable to specify the ventilation system provider right now, just tell your architect to have the structural engineer calculate using average values. That shouldn’t be too much of an issue for a controlled residential ventilation system—unless your engineer is inexperienced.
Regards, Bauexperte
DaLinux schrieb:
So, if I understand this correctly, I either have to pay another planner or find the final system installer right now. Neither option is particularly appealing to me.
Building a house costs money and requires decisions. I don’t really understand your problem here. When you buy a car, you can’t just decide the seat color at the “wedding” (final meeting), because by then the seats are already in stock.
If you feel unable to specify the ventilation system provider right now, just tell your architect to have the structural engineer calculate using average values. That shouldn’t be too much of an issue for a controlled residential ventilation system—unless your engineer is inexperienced.
Regards, Bauexperte
We had the plans for the mechanical ventilation system developed only after the building permit/planning permission and structural engineering documents were completed, by the heating installer. Our architect usually works with the heating contractor we chose and therefore probably had some experience in this area. I wouldn’t have wanted to hire a building services engineer (TGA) either. If anything, I would have gone directly to the specialized contractor.
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