ᐅ Planned kitchen ideas or suggestions?

darksun schrieb:

> "I would also make full use of the entire height."
My wife is short, she prefers lower cabinet heights and fewer tall cabinets...

That makes sense if, for example, you plan to lower the ceiling. But in fact, you can arrange the shelves identically in a taller, deeper wall cabinet. The taller one simply offers more storage space in the top compartment.
This doesn’t apply to upward-opening cabinets, of course, as they swing up and need space above.
But I think this is purely a matter of personal preference.

When I think this over again…
Any legitimate criticism is just smoothed over by the original poster. 🙄

Then why even have this topic here at all? Go to a professional with the right tools, and they’ll build you something nice. 😉

driver55 schrieb:

When I think back over this again…
Any justified criticism is just smoothed over by the OP. 🙄

So why even have this topic here? Go to a professional with pro tools, they’ll build you something nice. 😉

?

You are right, let me think it through once more...

In my opinion, some people don’t really understand that I don’t immediately say "great, I’ll do it" to every well-intended suggestion.

Where exactly have I “smoothed over” anything?

Kitchen cabinet height? For the reasons mentioned, we don’t want that, so we just won’t do it...

Fridge next to the patio door? We don’t want it for justified reasons either, but we’ll do it anyway...

Le Mans cabinets, which we and others don’t like, but sure: we’ll take them if desired...

...

Sorry driver55, what exactly is your problem?

darksun schrieb:

Some people, in my opinion, don’t really understand that I don’t immediately respond to every well-intentioned suggestion with "great, I’ll do that."

It’s more likely that you don’t recognize the difference between "suggestions" and well-established rules developed over years. No one expects an immediate "I’ll do that." But maybe an open ear when you ask. Perhaps even a question about why it would be better that way, or what the advantage would be. Instead, you dismiss the ideas and respond only with your own arguments, without considering that not just option A, but also B, C, or option D could work—also for short people.

Some users contributing here volunteer to plan kitchens. They would gladly help you gain an unbiased perspective on ergonomic work, but when help is dismissed too quickly, it understandably reduces the willingness to assist someone who doesn’t want to be helped.

Apparently, you don’t accept the logic behind a few lines posted here. How could you? You seem to think you know best. That’s probably why the room looks the way it does, with the window placements and 6! wall openings leaving little options. You probably do your actual job very well. But looking at this now, shouldn’t professionals take over? For example, you can find them in @evelinoz and @kbt09 … but you won’t consider their well-meant responses…

darksun schrieb:

Sorry driver55, what exactly is your problem?

None of the respondents have a problem here; we all already have a kitchen, either planned by a professional or by the users mentioned above. Some are very happy with their kitchen, others realize they wasted some potential. That is experience… and this is what is shared here. Because many people here also know their own limitations.

Maybe you should just reflect on that—and on your kitchen.

darksun schrieb:

Hello,
with the existing floor plan, we have currently planned the following kitchen layout.
The total area of the kitchen with the dining nook is 21 m² (226 sq ft), and the room length (wall with the kitchen units) is 440 cm (14 ft 5 in).

A kitchen island is planned, but purely as a workspace (no stove), possibly with open shelving underneath; and possibly with a raised section at the end of the island so it can serve as a kind of bar counter.

Note: In the rendered image, the colors and designs (wall shelf, island, sink, etc.) are only examples (as generated by Sweet3D); the focus is more on the arrangement and sequence of cabinets and appliances.

It might also be nice to have a (small) work surface in the window corner (facing southwest, evening sun). Currently, we have the dishwasher planned there, close to the sink, and the open door is hardly obstructive since it opens along the wall.

Any ideas, comments, suggestions?

Good luck,
martin

So basically, you really like your design? You describe your plan and ask for “ideas, comments, suggestions,” but then dismiss everything that is suggested and still think your layout is perfect as it is?
What kind of ideas, comments, suggestions are you actually looking for and why?
I’m a bit puzzled.

I don’t fully understand it either. Especially since many of the points made were quite valid. For example, the comment about the fully automatic coffee machine being placed near the sink. The response was, “You can just carry it three meters every couple of days.”

Sure, you can do that. But you could also trip, spill the coffee grounds and water mess over the floor, and then have to clean it up. Someone living in a rental apartment where the kitchen is already installed and who can’t find another spot for the coffee machine might be able to manage that just fine. But if I’m designing a kitchen in a new build, would I really plan such inconvenience into it myself?

Many of the points raised are valid, while many of the replies are more like “it doesn’t bother us.” You can live with a lot, but when planning something new, shouldn’t you try to avoid inconvenient compromises where possible?