ᐅ Planned for months and now facing additional costs because it’s not feasible?!
Created on: 22 Dec 2016 13:28
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titozHello everyone,
I have a small problem. I planned for the house to have four folding door systems that all fold outward.
2x 4.30 m (14.1 ft) wide
2x 3.30 m (10.8 ft) wide
The plan for about six months has been that the large folding doors would have 4 panels and the smaller ones 3 panels, so that each panel is about 1.10 m (3.6 ft) wide and the look is uniform. Additionally, roller shutters are planned since they provide the best light blocking.
Now, just before ordering the windows, the builder comes with the following statements:
1. The window installer cannot provide insulated roller shutters for the 4.30 m (14.1 ft) folding doors because they would otherwise sag.
2. The 4.30 m (14.1 ft) folding doors are only available with 5 panels.
Regarding point 1) His suggestion: I should switch to venetian blinds (or external blinds), as those are apparently available in that width, but with an additional cost which he has not provided yet.
Regarding point 2) His suggestion: I should rather choose a tilt-and-slide door, which is also cheaper... or add one more panel to the smaller folding doors as well for a uniform appearance. Another option would be to have the folding doors made from aluminum. That would allow the requested sizes, but again with nearly €4,000 more in costs.
Now my questions:
Who is responsible for the extra costs for the venetian blinds and aluminum folding doors? A builder with a draftsman and architect should know whether insulated roller shutters of that width exist and whether folding doors of that width with a certain number of panels are available or not.
If I had known the extra costs earlier, I certainly would have reconsidered, but the shell is already built and changing plans now is difficult.
Best regards,
titoz
I have a small problem. I planned for the house to have four folding door systems that all fold outward.
2x 4.30 m (14.1 ft) wide
2x 3.30 m (10.8 ft) wide
The plan for about six months has been that the large folding doors would have 4 panels and the smaller ones 3 panels, so that each panel is about 1.10 m (3.6 ft) wide and the look is uniform. Additionally, roller shutters are planned since they provide the best light blocking.
Now, just before ordering the windows, the builder comes with the following statements:
1. The window installer cannot provide insulated roller shutters for the 4.30 m (14.1 ft) folding doors because they would otherwise sag.
2. The 4.30 m (14.1 ft) folding doors are only available with 5 panels.
Regarding point 1) His suggestion: I should switch to venetian blinds (or external blinds), as those are apparently available in that width, but with an additional cost which he has not provided yet.
Regarding point 2) His suggestion: I should rather choose a tilt-and-slide door, which is also cheaper... or add one more panel to the smaller folding doors as well for a uniform appearance. Another option would be to have the folding doors made from aluminum. That would allow the requested sizes, but again with nearly €4,000 more in costs.
Now my questions:
Who is responsible for the extra costs for the venetian blinds and aluminum folding doors? A builder with a draftsman and architect should know whether insulated roller shutters of that width exist and whether folding doors of that width with a certain number of panels are available or not.
If I had known the extra costs earlier, I certainly would have reconsidered, but the shell is already built and changing plans now is difficult.
Best regards,
titoz
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Bieber081522 Dec 2016 13:33What was agreed upon? What is stated in the construction description? What exactly does "was planned" mean? Were the "folding systems" sold to you as described, with these specific features? If yes, they must now be delivered. If not ...
Is it really a developer, or is it a general contractor or a main contractor?
Is it really a developer, or is it a general contractor or a main contractor?
Bieber0815 schrieb:
What was agreed upon? What does the building specification say? What exactly does "was planned" mean? Were the "folding systems" sold to you as you described, with those specific features? If yes, then they must be delivered as such. If not...
Is it really a developer or is it a general contractor (GC) or a main contractor?Hmm, the building specification only mentions plastic folding systems, but it does not specify the division of the elements. However, this is shown in the construction plan and has been indicated this way from the very beginning in every version of the plan.
For the roller shutters, the specification states: electric roller shutters in every room.
The contract states that the following documents define the scope of services:
- Offer including building specification: The roller shutter topic is clarified here. There is no detailed information about the folding systems.
- Construction sketch: Roller shutters are marked with "Ro," including on the folding systems. The folding systems themselves are drawn here with the requested 4 elements for the large openings and 3 elements for the smaller openings.
- Room schedule: Neither of these topics is mentioned here.
Reading this, he would have to cover both additional costs, correct?
What exactly is a GC or main contractor?
Regards,
Tito
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