ᐅ Planning the Location of the House and Garage Within the Building Envelope *Preliminary Planning*

Created on: 9 Aug 2016 10:52
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Häuslebau3r
Hello everyone,

I have been following the forum for quite some time now and am gradually approaching the “house building” project step by step, trying to learn as much as possible in advance.

Thanks to the many experts here, this has truly been an enjoyable experience in the way the community contributes. (end of flattery mode) 🙂

As I already mentioned in my first major thread, we are currently working on preliminary planning and considering the house design and its orientation on the plot, even before our first meetings with potential builders.

Taking several factors into account regarding the plot, such as price and an undeveloped east-facing location (sloping gently down to the east), we found a micro-location that we really like. We weren’t able to get our ideal size, but with 770m² (8300 sq ft), I think it’s more than sufficient. The main advantage for us is that the land can be fully paid for from our own funds, so until construction starts in early 2018, we will continue saving equity and paying off any remaining debts.

Katasterplan mit angrenzenden Grundstücken und hervorgehobenem Baugrundstück

Luftplan zeigt mehrere Grundstücke mit Häusern, Straßen und Feldern in einer Siedlung.

Außenansicht eines Hauses mit Garten und weitem Felderblick im ländlichen Umfeld.

Panorama eines offenen Baugrundstücks zwischen zwei Häusern mit Gartenfläche

Source: Excerpts from the development plan / self-created images

A building permit inquiry (building permit / planning permission) has already been submitted regarding the desired architectural style, and I have received approval to expand the building envelope up to 8 meters (26 feet) along the eastern boundary.

At the moment, we are leaning toward a rather classic city villa style (2 full floors with a hipped roof at 25° and a double garage).

Modernes weißes Einfamilienhaus mit großen Fenstern, Balkon, Terrasse mit Sitzgruppe und Garage.

Source: Weberhaus

Based on the budget we have personally set, we are initially planning without a basement. If it turns out to be feasible later on, we can still include it.

We have already visited model homes that appealed to us in terms of external design and even traveled from Bavaria to the Rhineland, and from there to Wuppertal for inspiration.

Right now, before the first planning meetings, we want to focus on finding the best possible orientation for the house and garage on the property, for example:

Lageplan eines Grundstücks mit Gebäuden, Grenzlinien und Straße

Lageplan eines Grundstücks mit Gebäudeumrissen und Grenzlinien

Source: Excerpts from the development plan

For me, one thing is already decided: the staircase, which I want to have exactly like this due to the fantastic light conditions. It captivated me at first sight.

Moderne Holzstufen-Treppe mit Metallgeländer in hellem Innenraum; runde Deckenlampe.

Moderne weiße Villa mit dunklem Dach, großen Fenstern und Terrasse im Garten.

Source: Weberhaus

Furthermore, we want to keep as much space as possible on the west and south sides to create what I consider an ideal sunny aspect and garden atmosphere.

This is also the tricky part, as the arrangement between house and garage is causing us some headaches.

Many questions arise, such as whether the garage should be placed in front of the house to free up more space on the south side, or rather beside the house (which would include a covered entrance area). A passage from the garage directly into the house is also under consideration. Or should the main entrance be on the west side instead, which might mean it would be uncovered?

Eingangsbereich eines modernen weißen Hauses mit schwarzer Tür, Korbsessel und Pflanzkübel.

Source for covered entrance: Weberhaus

I will post further key data throughout the thread as needed, in case I have forgotten anything important.

However, these points above need to be clarified first before we can continue planning the positioning of the dining, living, and kitchen areas, etc. (Of course, with a preference for south/west orientation).

I would appreciate any information and lively discussions.

Best regards, Andreas, and thank you in advance!
Häuslebau3r17 Aug 2016 07:33
Good morning everyone,

I'm only back online today and will therefore take your comments and experiences to heart once again. Especially regarding a possibly better and more detailed visual presentation of the whole thing.
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ypg
17 Aug 2016 07:52
For the visual representation, use a pencil; that is completely sufficient and better than Tetris!
Häuslebau3r17 Aug 2016 08:19
ypg schrieb:
For the visual representation, use a pencil; that's perfectly sufficient and better than Tetris!


Hello Yvonne,

Yes, I usually prefer the pencil as well... but here, moving the "Tetris lines" makes it a bit easier to handle. At home, it looks a bit different again.
Häuslebau3r17 Aug 2016 11:05
Hello everyone,

This morning I tried again to refine Yvonne’s draft by incorporating your feedback and taking spatial conditions (possibly square meter figures) into better account. Since we are still discussing the floor plan layout of the house or possibly the room arrangement, I have not yet included wall thicknesses (which would affect the total square meters and size of the house).

(Initially, our focus was actually only on the alignment of the garage in relation to the house within the specified building plot, which has now developed a bit further)

Variant 1 Ground Floor Changes:


Ground floor plan variant 1 with entrance area, kitchen, dining room, office, and garage.

  • Entrance hall area reduced
  • Kitchen door removed
  • Pantry widened to 1.20m (4 feet) (as already mentioned, no freezers are planned here)
  • Gallery indicated

Variant 2 Ground Floor Changes:


Ground floor plan variant 2: kitchen/living/dining area, office/guest room, utility/technical room, staircase

  • Entrance hall area reduced
  • Kitchen door removed
  • Utility/technical room enlarged from 12m² (129 square feet) to 14m² (151 square feet)
  • Pantry removed
  • Gallery removed

Variant 1 First Floor Changes:


Floor plan of a house with rooms (parents, child 1, child 2), bathroom, hallway, dressing room; dimensions.

  • Hallway area reduced
  • Square meters of the parents’ bedroom and dressing room adjusted
  • Bathroom size adjusted
  • Storage room included in the plan
  • Gallery present facing south

Variant 1/2 First Floor Changes:


Floor plan variant 1/2 attic (without gallery) with bathroom, WC, hallway, parents’ and children’s rooms.

  • Hallway area reduced
  • Square meters of the parents’ bedroom and dressing room adjusted
  • Bathroom size adjusted
  • Storage room included in the plan
  • WC included in the plan
  • Gallery removed

Variant 2 First Floor Changes:


Floor plan of a residential house: gallery variant 2 on the first floor with bathroom, parents’ and children’s rooms.

  • Hallway area reduced
  • Square meters of the parents’ bedroom and dressing room adjusted
  • Bathroom size adjusted
  • Storage room included in the plan
  • WC position changed / slightly larger
  • Gallery removed
  • (the corner area of child 1’s room could of course also be moved inward)
RobsonMKK17 Aug 2016 12:49
What I noticed:
  • The bathroom is huge, about 17 sqm (183 sq ft). What is supposed to go in there?
  • The storage room on the upper floor seems too narrow. What is meant to be stored there?
  • Why not make the house fully cubic and remove the last bend as well?
  • I find the kitchen area too tight in both plans. The very large island only has a clearance of about 70 cm (28 inches).
  • As mentioned before, you seem to prefer a very complex layout.
  • How wide is the entrance hallway? It looks to me to be just over 1 meter (39 inches), which could be tight with the front door. Is only a door planned there, or will there be a glass panel next to the door as well?
Häuslebau3r17 Aug 2016 13:17
RobsonMKK schrieb:
What I notice:
  • The bathroom is huge at about 17 sqm (183 sq ft). What exactly will go in there?
  • The storage room on the upper floor seems too narrow. What will be stored there?
  • Why not make the house completely cubic and remove the last kink as well?
  • In both plans, I find the kitchen area too tight. The very large island only has about 70 cm (28 inches) clearance around it.
  • As already mentioned, you seem to prefer quite a complicated layout.
  • How wide is the entrance hallway? It looks just over 1 meter (3.3 feet) wide, which might be tight with the front door. Will there only be a door or also a glass element next to it?

Hello Robson,

Thanks again for your comments. I would like to address and incorporate your points once more.

  • The bathroom is huge at about 17 sqm (183 sq ft). What exactly will go in there?
The plan includes a bathtub as well as a walk-in shower, toilet, and a washbasin unit with either one long or two separate basins. Details are not finalized yet since we are still in the preliminary planning phase.

  • The storage room on the upper floor seems too narrow. What will be stored there?
It is mainly intended as a utility closet for items like the vacuum cleaner and other household accessories. It would certainly be too small for a dedicated ironing room or similar. Possibly, the bathroom could be made slightly smaller to add the gained square meters there, depending on what works better.

  • Why not make the house completely cubic and remove the last kink as well?
We were a bit bothered by the purely rectangular appearance of the sample houses we have seen so far and didn’t feel fully convinced by them. That’s why we wanted to soften the shape of a typical cubic townhouse with this small projection.

  • In both plans, I find the kitchen area too tight. The very large island only has about 70 cm (28 inches) clearance around it.
I based the island size on online examples and tried to scale it to our current island. However, I’m not entirely certain it needs to be that big; in the drawing, it measures 2.40 x 1.30 m (7.9 x 4.3 ft).

  • As already mentioned, you seem to prefer quite a complicated layout.
Are you referring to the external shape of the house or also to the ground-floor hallway layout? We tried to arrange the kitchen, living, and dining areas on the ground floor in more of an L shape. We actually wanted to avoid a narrow corridor shape, but with this lot layout, it might not be so easy.

  • How wide is the entrance hallway? It looks just over 1 meter (3.3 feet) wide, which might be tight with the front door. Will there only be a door or also a glass element next to it?
Including a glass element would definitely look nice. Due to reducing the hallway size, it has now been set to 1.50 m (4.9 ft). What would be the approximate standard width needed for this?

I am open to other configurations that would allow an L-shaped arrangement of the kitchen, living, and dining areas with an entrance from the west, but I believe that is not exactly easy, especially while placing the staircase on the east side.