ᐅ Planning the Location of the House and Garage Within the Building Envelope *Preliminary Planning*

Created on: 9 Aug 2016 10:52
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Häuslebau3r
Hello everyone,

I have been following the forum for quite some time now and am gradually approaching the “house building” project step by step, trying to learn as much as possible in advance.

Thanks to the many experts here, this has truly been an enjoyable experience in the way the community contributes. (end of flattery mode) 🙂

As I already mentioned in my first major thread, we are currently working on preliminary planning and considering the house design and its orientation on the plot, even before our first meetings with potential builders.

Taking several factors into account regarding the plot, such as price and an undeveloped east-facing location (sloping gently down to the east), we found a micro-location that we really like. We weren’t able to get our ideal size, but with 770m² (8300 sq ft), I think it’s more than sufficient. The main advantage for us is that the land can be fully paid for from our own funds, so until construction starts in early 2018, we will continue saving equity and paying off any remaining debts.

Katasterplan mit angrenzenden Grundstücken und hervorgehobenem Baugrundstück

Luftplan zeigt mehrere Grundstücke mit Häusern, Straßen und Feldern in einer Siedlung.

Außenansicht eines Hauses mit Garten und weitem Felderblick im ländlichen Umfeld.

Panorama eines offenen Baugrundstücks zwischen zwei Häusern mit Gartenfläche

Source: Excerpts from the development plan / self-created images

A building permit inquiry (building permit / planning permission) has already been submitted regarding the desired architectural style, and I have received approval to expand the building envelope up to 8 meters (26 feet) along the eastern boundary.

At the moment, we are leaning toward a rather classic city villa style (2 full floors with a hipped roof at 25° and a double garage).

Modernes weißes Einfamilienhaus mit großen Fenstern, Balkon, Terrasse mit Sitzgruppe und Garage.

Source: Weberhaus

Based on the budget we have personally set, we are initially planning without a basement. If it turns out to be feasible later on, we can still include it.

We have already visited model homes that appealed to us in terms of external design and even traveled from Bavaria to the Rhineland, and from there to Wuppertal for inspiration.

Right now, before the first planning meetings, we want to focus on finding the best possible orientation for the house and garage on the property, for example:

Lageplan eines Grundstücks mit Gebäuden, Grenzlinien und Straße

Lageplan eines Grundstücks mit Gebäudeumrissen und Grenzlinien

Source: Excerpts from the development plan

For me, one thing is already decided: the staircase, which I want to have exactly like this due to the fantastic light conditions. It captivated me at first sight.

Moderne Holzstufen-Treppe mit Metallgeländer in hellem Innenraum; runde Deckenlampe.

Moderne weiße Villa mit dunklem Dach, großen Fenstern und Terrasse im Garten.

Source: Weberhaus

Furthermore, we want to keep as much space as possible on the west and south sides to create what I consider an ideal sunny aspect and garden atmosphere.

This is also the tricky part, as the arrangement between house and garage is causing us some headaches.

Many questions arise, such as whether the garage should be placed in front of the house to free up more space on the south side, or rather beside the house (which would include a covered entrance area). A passage from the garage directly into the house is also under consideration. Or should the main entrance be on the west side instead, which might mean it would be uncovered?

Eingangsbereich eines modernen weißen Hauses mit schwarzer Tür, Korbsessel und Pflanzkübel.

Source for covered entrance: Weberhaus

I will post further key data throughout the thread as needed, in case I have forgotten anything important.

However, these points above need to be clarified first before we can continue planning the positioning of the dining, living, and kitchen areas, etc. (Of course, with a preference for south/west orientation).

I would appreciate any information and lively discussions.

Best regards, Andreas, and thank you in advance!
Jochen10411 Aug 2016 15:14
Häuslebau3r schrieb:
I need to learn more about these drawing programs, so far I've only used the usual drawing and word processing software. Let's see if my CAD programs still work.

Before you struggle or buy software:
Take a piece of paper and draw it roughly to scale. Alternatively, you can even do this with Excel:

Floor plan of a house with living, dining, and kitchen areas, hallway, utility room, and garage.
Häuslebau3r schrieb:
Maybe also with a slanted wall at the top like in the design with the gallery, just without the gallery itself.

UHHHHHH... you’re planning such a nice, straightforward house and then want to add a slanted wall... that really makes my hair stand on end. But, of course, that’s a matter of personal taste.
Häuslebau3r11 Aug 2016 15:18
Jochen104 schrieb:
Before you struggle or buy software:
Take a piece of paper and draw it roughly to scale. Alternatively, you can even do this with Excel:


UHHHHHH... you’re planning such a nice, straightforward house and then want to add a slanted wall... that really makes my neck hairs stand on end. But, of course, that’s a matter of personal taste.

Well, now you’re really surprised.
So far, the wall isn’t built yet.

Yep, I’ll get around to making a proper scale drawing when I have time. First, I’ll collect the data for a staircase.
Jochen10411 Aug 2016 15:21
Now I actually had to laugh again at my own Tetris design.
But Excel is really practical for this; you can easily move everything back and forth.
Simply set the rows and columns to a small but consistent height and view it as a 10cm (5 inches) grid. This means you only have 40cm (16 inches) exterior walls and 20cm (8 inches) interior walls, but 60cm (24 inches) cabinets can be represented well.
Häuslebau3r11 Aug 2016 15:28
Jochen104 schrieb:
I just had to laugh again at my own Tetris design.
But it’s really practical in Excel; you can easily move everything around.
Just set the rows and columns to a small but consistent height and use it as a 10cm (5 inches) grid. That way, you end up with 40cm (16 inches) exterior walls and 20cm (8 inches) interior walls, but 60cm (24 inches) cabinets can be well represented.

Maybe you can import the floor plan from the other program and then, as you suggested, redraw it to scale again. I might give that a try tonight. (without glass white), otherwise it won’t work again.
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kbt09
11 Aug 2016 15:35
Here are the staircase examples:

Architectural floor plan of a stairwell with dimensions and Room 1 (131.54 m²).


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@ypg ... Yvonne, maybe you could simply add the image to a second post within your
https://www.hausbau-forum.de/threads/grundrissplanung-bitte-vor-Beitrag-Erstellung-lesen.11714/ thread.

That way, everyone can easily find it again and link to it from other places. Otherwise, I keep uploading it repeatedly.
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ypg
11 Aug 2016 19:20
kbt09 schrieb:
Here are the staircase examples:


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@ypg ... Yvonne, maybe you could simply add the image in a second post within your
https://www.hausbau-forum.de/threads/grundrissplanung-bitte-vor-Beitrag-Erstellung-lesen.11714/ thread.

That way, everyone can find it quickly again and link to it elsewhere. Otherwise, I keep uploading it repeatedly.

Yes, good idea
Soon, after I have drawn this house with Arcon :P