Hello,
I would appreciate some good input and collective knowledge, as we are currently stuck with the planning of our parking spaces and carport, but we need some kind of concept if we want to create a somewhat solid cost estimate.
Attached you will hopefully find all the necessary documents needed for brainstorming.
As you can see in the elevation plan, the house as well as (in the original version) the placement of the carport are already planned. The depicted carport is 4 x 8 m (including storage room). The distance from the house to the right property boundary is 6.5 m (minimum distance 6 m due to building easement, but we didn’t want more so that enough garden space remains). Originally, a 4 m wide carport with one parking space in front was planned, but the municipality requires 2 separately drivable parking spaces, each 2.5 x 5 m. There are no exceptions to this rule. Therefore, for the permit, a second parking space was initially placed between the sidewalk and driveway (which fit well with the 6.5 m distance), but as you can see on the elevation plan, there is a slope there. The carport at the boundary may have a maximum average height of 3 m, so the plan includes a ramp there. In the original plan, it would not have been a problem to plant on the neighbor side and between the sidewalk and driveway. Now this is no longer possible. In addition, the slope goes downward and there is no planting strip between the parking spaces and the sidewalk. However, the house is at street level, so a slope or wall will form there. You would almost have to install a railing, as planting is not even possible.
This is all not optimal and also not attractive. We have been thinking all the time about how to solve this.
For example, we could place a 5 x 5 m carport directly at the boundary, but we don’t like this regarding the main entrance. Also, it would be very tight in front of the door. We could also place a parking space crosswise in front of the house, but I don’t find that ideal either since the car would be openly visible from the street. I believe fencing it is not allowed because otherwise, there wouldn’t be enough maneuvering space at the rear?
Alternatively, the carport could be placed in the far northeast, but the problem is that soil will be filled up for the house and the fill slopes out 1 to 2 m sideways. The carport would have to be almost at the original ground level to be allowed on the boundary (because of the 3 m height limit).
So... now it gets difficult. Actually, we like the first plan best, but we have no good idea how to design it nicely if the sidewalk and driveway are not at the same height… and you’re not even allowed to put a plant there.
I look forward to ideas, and if anything is missing... I can hopefully provide most of it later.
Thank you very much.
I would appreciate some good input and collective knowledge, as we are currently stuck with the planning of our parking spaces and carport, but we need some kind of concept if we want to create a somewhat solid cost estimate.
Attached you will hopefully find all the necessary documents needed for brainstorming.
As you can see in the elevation plan, the house as well as (in the original version) the placement of the carport are already planned. The depicted carport is 4 x 8 m (including storage room). The distance from the house to the right property boundary is 6.5 m (minimum distance 6 m due to building easement, but we didn’t want more so that enough garden space remains). Originally, a 4 m wide carport with one parking space in front was planned, but the municipality requires 2 separately drivable parking spaces, each 2.5 x 5 m. There are no exceptions to this rule. Therefore, for the permit, a second parking space was initially placed between the sidewalk and driveway (which fit well with the 6.5 m distance), but as you can see on the elevation plan, there is a slope there. The carport at the boundary may have a maximum average height of 3 m, so the plan includes a ramp there. In the original plan, it would not have been a problem to plant on the neighbor side and between the sidewalk and driveway. Now this is no longer possible. In addition, the slope goes downward and there is no planting strip between the parking spaces and the sidewalk. However, the house is at street level, so a slope or wall will form there. You would almost have to install a railing, as planting is not even possible.
This is all not optimal and also not attractive. We have been thinking all the time about how to solve this.
For example, we could place a 5 x 5 m carport directly at the boundary, but we don’t like this regarding the main entrance. Also, it would be very tight in front of the door. We could also place a parking space crosswise in front of the house, but I don’t find that ideal either since the car would be openly visible from the street. I believe fencing it is not allowed because otherwise, there wouldn’t be enough maneuvering space at the rear?
Alternatively, the carport could be placed in the far northeast, but the problem is that soil will be filled up for the house and the fill slopes out 1 to 2 m sideways. The carport would have to be almost at the original ground level to be allowed on the boundary (because of the 3 m height limit).
So... now it gets difficult. Actually, we like the first plan best, but we have no good idea how to design it nicely if the sidewalk and driveway are not at the same height… and you’re not even allowed to put a plant there.
I look forward to ideas, and if anything is missing... I can hopefully provide most of it later.
Thank you very much.
You don’t actually want or need the parking space... it’s just about the bureaucratic requirements. Can’t you build the carport as originally planned and add a second provisional parking spot in the lower-left corner of the plan (where it says "Baugrenze")? It only needs to be covered with gravel, and depending on the type of gravel used, something might even grow on it ;-)
Hangman schrieb:
You don’t actually want or need the parking space... it’s just about red tape. Can’t you build the carport as originally planned and create a second pro-forma parking space in the lower left corner of the plan (where it says "Baugrenze" [building boundary])? It only needs to be gravelled, and depending on the type of gravel, some plants might even grow on it ;-) Hello,
that was an idea too, but there are two problems:
1. No fence is allowed in front, and 2. there is a significant slope there.
Also, that is the main garden, with a nice south/west orientation. I don’t want gravel there.. -.-
But yes.. it’s just bureaucratic red tape...
Is a fence important to you (for a dog or similar)? Or is that just another requirement from the over-the-top authorities?
You only need to designate an area as a parking space. How you do that is another matter (especially since, commendably, you don’t even have two cars). A relatively flat area in front of the house would be enough. Using grass pavers can keep it reasonably green. If you don’t actually use it, just put some potted plants or creeping border plants on it 😎 In practice, nobody will really care. And even if they do, you can prove the possibility of a second parking space (and if push comes to shove, you can still create it).
I would be quite assertive about this. Not because it’s my nature, but because I honestly think it’s ridiculous to fight against sealed surfaces, gravel gardens, etc., while at the same time demanding unnecessary reserved parking spaces for the German “sacred cow.” Especially considering you even have two parking spaces in the original plan… the second just shouldn’t be “locked in.”
You only need to designate an area as a parking space. How you do that is another matter (especially since, commendably, you don’t even have two cars). A relatively flat area in front of the house would be enough. Using grass pavers can keep it reasonably green. If you don’t actually use it, just put some potted plants or creeping border plants on it 😎 In practice, nobody will really care. And even if they do, you can prove the possibility of a second parking space (and if push comes to shove, you can still create it).
I would be quite assertive about this. Not because it’s my nature, but because I honestly think it’s ridiculous to fight against sealed surfaces, gravel gardens, etc., while at the same time demanding unnecessary reserved parking spaces for the German “sacred cow.” Especially considering you even have two parking spaces in the original plan… the second just shouldn’t be “locked in.”
Hangman schrieb:
Is a fence important to you (for a dog or similar)? Or is it just another requirement from the local authorities?
You only need to designate an area as a parking space. How you implement it is another matter (especially since you don’t even have two cars, which is commendable). A relatively flat area in front of the house would be enough. You can use grass pavers to keep it fairly green. If you’re not using it at all, just place some large potted plants or dense border planting on it 😎 In practice, no one will really care. And even if they do, you can prove the possibility of the second parking space (and if push comes to shove, you can create it).
I would be quite assertive about this. Not because it’s my nature, but because I genuinely find it ridiculous to fight against sealed surfaces, gravel gardens, etc., while at the same time requiring unnecessary extra parking spaces for the German sacred cow. Especially since you even have two parking spaces in the original plan... the second just must not be "trapped."A fence would be good with three kids and a road next door. But it is even mandatory to install a 1m (3ft 3in) high fence along the road…
Right now, we’re leaning towards the option attached. Unfortunately, we only have 4m (13ft) distance to the road, because that was how it was planned. But that should be enough for a 2.5m (8ft 2in) wide parking space, right? There still has to be a splash guard at the house (about 30cm (12in)?), then a small path alongside the house (which might just merge with the parking space), and then a fence and hedge along the road. It will be tight, but it should work..? Then there would be enough space in front of the house to have a parking space with planting.
A distance of 4m (13 feet) from the house is more than enough. The commonly used gravel strip as a splash guard is not necessary (unless you have a wooden house); you can simply put soil there. This leaves 1–1.5m (3–5 feet) of space next to the house that can be well planted.
I would do it as follows:
Light gray indicates the new parking space (like a parking bay), dark blue is the fence, light blue is a small gate, and the medium green dots represent planting (bushes, shrubs, perennials, hedges, etc.). So no fence along the street boundary—neither at the parking space nor the access path. Instead, only in front of the new parking space and behind the house entrance (plus possibly to the right of the driveway/carport—this depends on the local situation).
Advantages: The carport and access path remain as originally planned, and there are no maneuvering issues at the parking bay. Additionally, you still have a direct route to the property/terrace, and you can walk all around the house.
I would do it as follows:
Light gray indicates the new parking space (like a parking bay), dark blue is the fence, light blue is a small gate, and the medium green dots represent planting (bushes, shrubs, perennials, hedges, etc.). So no fence along the street boundary—neither at the parking space nor the access path. Instead, only in front of the new parking space and behind the house entrance (plus possibly to the right of the driveway/carport—this depends on the local situation).
Advantages: The carport and access path remain as originally planned, and there are no maneuvering issues at the parking bay. Additionally, you still have a direct route to the property/terrace, and you can walk all around the house.
Hello,
thank you for your effort, but unfortunately, this option doesn’t work for us. We have three children and don’t want an open courtyard (sorry if that wasn’t clear before). With the parking space in front of the house as we want it (fence next to it), the old design can’t be maintained because there is a downward slope to the carport, so you can’t reverse out. But parking openly on the street is not really my thing... it feels like it’s not my property, and someone else might end up parking there 😀 Oh well... it’s all quite frustrating.
Or just simply in the lower left corner of the plot, as already mentioned, but then you lose unnecessary garden space for ugly gravel and aren’t allowed to fence it off.. -.-
Edit: It’s a timber frame, so I think the splash guard should go there, although there is actually also the concrete slab. But it’s more about protecting the plaster.
thank you for your effort, but unfortunately, this option doesn’t work for us. We have three children and don’t want an open courtyard (sorry if that wasn’t clear before). With the parking space in front of the house as we want it (fence next to it), the old design can’t be maintained because there is a downward slope to the carport, so you can’t reverse out. But parking openly on the street is not really my thing... it feels like it’s not my property, and someone else might end up parking there 😀 Oh well... it’s all quite frustrating.
Or just simply in the lower left corner of the plot, as already mentioned, but then you lose unnecessary garden space for ugly gravel and aren’t allowed to fence it off.. -.-
Edit: It’s a timber frame, so I think the splash guard should go there, although there is actually also the concrete slab. But it’s more about protecting the plaster.
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