ᐅ Photovoltaics at Any Cost – Current Situation and Available Options
Created on: 31 Jul 2022 13:22
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HnghusBY
Hello everyone,
After countless rejections due to overload, availability, and delivery issues, I have finally received an offer for a photovoltaic system.
The system is planned for our new build (completion in 2023). We have a gable roof, almost south-facing, with a 30-degree pitch, fully usable, about 50 sqm (540 sq ft) of roof area per side.
The house is being built in Bavaria, about 60 km (37 miles) from Thuringia.
The offer surprised me a bit. The following items are included:
14x MAXEON modules at 430 W each, heat pump system, totaling 6.02 kWp - €11,138
1x Tesla Powerwall 2.0, 13.5 kWh - €10,400
Installation, etc. - €3,130
Total: €24,668 net
I find that quite expensive. I would leave out the battery anyway, but even then, I think the price for the 6 kWp system is too high. Apparently, this is currently the price you pay in Bavaria if you can find someone at all. For me, the question is whether it even makes sense to invest right now or just pay for electricity. Of course, it’s a matter of calculation, but if you follow the discussions here, those prices seem sky-high — or not?
Is it better to get offers from other regions? Are there any recommendations around the 97XXX area?
After countless rejections due to overload, availability, and delivery issues, I have finally received an offer for a photovoltaic system.
The system is planned for our new build (completion in 2023). We have a gable roof, almost south-facing, with a 30-degree pitch, fully usable, about 50 sqm (540 sq ft) of roof area per side.
The house is being built in Bavaria, about 60 km (37 miles) from Thuringia.
The offer surprised me a bit. The following items are included:
14x MAXEON modules at 430 W each, heat pump system, totaling 6.02 kWp - €11,138
1x Tesla Powerwall 2.0, 13.5 kWh - €10,400
Installation, etc. - €3,130
Total: €24,668 net
I find that quite expensive. I would leave out the battery anyway, but even then, I think the price for the 6 kWp system is too high. Apparently, this is currently the price you pay in Bavaria if you can find someone at all. For me, the question is whether it even makes sense to invest right now or just pay for electricity. Of course, it’s a matter of calculation, but if you follow the discussions here, those prices seem sky-high — or not?
Is it better to get offers from other regions? Are there any recommendations around the 97XXX area?
gmt94 schrieb:
I’m not really sure what I want yet. 🙂 I could use someone to explain everything to me at a table and show me where and how to fill in the details.You’re welcome to call the tax office and ask them to explain the fields you need to fill in. They actually prefer that over receiving incorrect tax reports all the time and then having to correct them (direct quote from my tax office).N
Neubau202218 Aug 2022 09:05gmt94 schrieb:
So, a total of 14.4 kWp fits on the roof. That would be 36 modules. This setup would use both a hybrid inverter and a standard one. The cost here would be €21,800 excluding VAT.
Honestly, I’m still hesitant about all the tax issues. If only that few modules fit, I’d even more strongly consider choosing the best/most efficient ones. For example, the Hanwha Q-Cells Q.Peak Duo ML G10 410 W. This way you can maximize your kWp.
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SaniererNRW12318 Aug 2022 09:06gmt94 schrieb:
I’m not quite sure what I want yet. 🙂 I could really use someone to explain everything to me at a table and show me where and how to fill in the forms.The tax office in Bavaria explains it very well. Just search for "photovoltaic tax office Bavaria explanations." In the first few results, you’ll find many great documents from Bavaria, including fill-in guides (with details on what to enter in each field).Fuchur schrieb:
Because VAT is definitely more work than submitting the income-surplus statement once a year.Do you think so? Four advance VAT returns, each requiring fewer than half a dozen entries and—when filing regularly—are identical four times a year?
If you are considering losing several thousand euros by foregoing the input tax deduction, it is better to invest a fraction of that amount in a tax advisor. We are talking here about 12 monthly VAT filings (three clicks via Elster) in the first year and 5 annual VAT returns (four clicks via Elster) until the KUR.
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SaniererNRW12318 Aug 2022 09:35guckuck2 schrieb:
We are talking about 12 monthly VAT filings (three clicks via Elster) in the first year Monthly filings have long been discontinued. Now it is quarterly. In Bavaria, this has been standard since (I believe) 2021; in North Rhine-Westphalia (NRW), it is standard for VAT under €7,500 (around $8,000) per year; in Hesse, quarterly filings are generally required. Other states have similar rules.
So it is only four times a year now, with three clicks each time.