ᐅ Photovoltaics at Any Cost – Current Situation and Available Options

Created on: 31 Jul 2022 13:22
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HnghusBY
Hello everyone,

After countless rejections due to overload, availability, and delivery issues, I have finally received an offer for a photovoltaic system.
The system is planned for our new build (completion in 2023). We have a gable roof, almost south-facing, with a 30-degree pitch, fully usable, about 50 sqm (540 sq ft) of roof area per side.
The house is being built in Bavaria, about 60 km (37 miles) from Thuringia.

The offer surprised me a bit. The following items are included:
14x MAXEON modules at 430 W each, heat pump system, totaling 6.02 kWp - €11,138
1x Tesla Powerwall 2.0, 13.5 kWh - €10,400
Installation, etc. - €3,130
Total: €24,668 net

I find that quite expensive. I would leave out the battery anyway, but even then, I think the price for the 6 kWp system is too high. Apparently, this is currently the price you pay in Bavaria if you can find someone at all. For me, the question is whether it even makes sense to invest right now or just pay for electricity. Of course, it’s a matter of calculation, but if you follow the discussions here, those prices seem sky-high — or not?
Is it better to get offers from other regions? Are there any recommendations around the 97XXX area?
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gmt94
17 Aug 2022 12:13
Neubau2022 schrieb:

I am buying a green car for €20,000. Is that okay? 🙂 There should definitely be more information. Which modules, including the mounting structure, full black design, power optimizer?


Here is the complete offer:

Bill of materials for the photovoltaic system: modules and inverters with technical data and prices.


Delivery list with items and quantities (smart energy meter, mounting system, cables).


Invoice: photovoltaic system; mounting structure and transport costs; net €15,268.55; gross €18,169.57


Mounting structure: yes, full black: no idea, power optimizer: no idea
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Scout**
17 Aug 2022 12:44
I consider the offer of 1500 euros/kWp to be really fair.

At most, 1.9 from "Kleinkrusch Elektro" stands out as an exception. Otherwise, thumbs up.

And choose the alternative offer for the inverter, where you can add a battery later on and genuine backup power is also included.
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Fuchur
17 Aug 2022 20:37
Why exactly 27 modules? 9.9 kWp sounds like someone is deliberately trying to stay under 10 kWp, possibly without knowing the current system limits.
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gmt94
17 Aug 2022 21:12
Fuchur schrieb:

Why exactly 27 modules? 9.9 kWp sounds like someone is trying to stay deliberately below 10 kWp without fully understanding the current system limits.


The roof can actually fit a total of 14.4 kWp. That would be 36 modules. However, this would require a hybrid inverter and a standard inverter. The cost would be €21,800 excluding VAT.

To be honest, I’m still hesitant about all the tax-related issues.
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Fuchur
17 Aug 2022 21:14
gmt94 schrieb:

To be honest, I’m still hesitant about all this tax stuff.
So you want to buy gross? Because VAT is definitely more complicated than filing the income surplus statement once a year.
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gmt94
17 Aug 2022 21:22
Fuchur schrieb:

So you want to buy gross price? Because VAT is definitely more work than filling out the simplified profit and loss statement once a year.

I’m not even sure what I want yet. :-) I would need someone who can sit down with me and explain everything, showing me what to fill in where and how.