ᐅ Do photovoltaic systems and heat pumps share similar performance characteristics or operational experiences?

Created on: 9 Mar 2016 22:27
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toxicmolotof
Hello dear forum members,

Since Monday afternoon, my photovoltaic system has been up and running, and I have to say... I can’t stop smiling.

Here are the details:
  • 5.4 kWp (18 modules at 300 W each)
  • Peak power limitation 70% soft
  • Flat roof, mounting angle 10°
  • Orientation southwest, about 45° off south
  • Feed-in to household electricity including heat pump
  • Surplus energy sale
  • no battery storage

Today’s performance:

Diagram: Production 21.29 kWh on 09.03.2016; grid power (pink) and direct consumption (blue)


The gray line represents household consumption, the blue and red areas show production, where the blue part was self-consumed and the red part was sold.

You can clearly see the washing machine running in the morning, the regular starts of the heat pump, midday consumption, and even the not-so-optimally started dishwasher after 6 p.m.

For a (very good) day in March, I’m more than satisfied. The only thing is that the heat pump in the early morning isn’t yet running as efficiently as I’d like. But I guess only a battery would help with that, and that still seems uneconomical to me.
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Grym
3 Sep 2016 07:41
30 kWp x 950 kWh/kWp x 0.1231 Euro/kWh = 3,508.35 gross

On top of that, taxes, insurance, maintenance, new purchases such as inverters... plus taxes on self-consumption...

Result: 5,200 net... I see
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Tom1607
3 Sep 2016 08:07
Solar-Log Dashboard with bar chart of annual production (kWh) 2012–2016

Yield 32,843 kWh * 0.165 Euro = 5,419 Euro

Taxes = (result - depreciation - expenses, etc.) * 0.35 -> (5,419 - 2,500 - 270) * 0.35 -> 5,419 - 927 - 270 = 4,222

Yield after taxes 4,222 Euro, excluding self-consumption of approximately another 800 Euro

In total, I end up with about 5,000 Euro.

And even if it takes 2 years longer, it’s still a profitable investment.
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Sebastian79
3 Sep 2016 08:19
Grym’s problem is that he only lives in his theoretical calculations, has no practical experience, and still wants to lecture those people.
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Tom1607
3 Sep 2016 08:22
I took the time to dig out the bill from my utility provider again. For 2015, I received a refund of €6349.38 gross. That means I got €5335 for 2015. I will ignore the €80 discrepancy in my previous calculation now...
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Tom1607
3 Sep 2016 08:27
Oh, and regarding the warranty, I have a 15-year warranty on my inverters. I arranged that at the time of purchase, and it was included in the purchase price. They are SMA, and I believe they won’t go out of business in the next few years....
f-pNo4 Sep 2016 23:01
Grym schrieb:
30 kWp x 950 kWh/kWp x 0.1231 Euro/kWh = 3,508.35 gross
Tom1607 schrieb:

yield 32,843 kWh * 0.165 Euro = 5,419€

Well – @Grym and @Tom1607 are clearly using completely different values:

28,500 vs. 32,843 kWh
0.1231 EUR/kWh vs. 0.165 EUR/kWh
This alone explains the difference in calculations.
I assume that with this feed-in tariff, Tom installed the system sometime between 2012 and 2013.

However, @Tom1607: how can a 30 kWp system produce 32,800 kWh per year?
A 30 kWp system should produce about 30 x 1,000 kWh per year under optimal conditions, right? Or am I mistaken?