ᐅ Paving edging without raised curbs

Created on: 16 Jan 2019 14:37
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bortel
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bortel
16 Jan 2019 14:37
Hello everyone,

I am currently planning the future design of the driveway, carport, and planting beds.

I would prefer not to border the planting beds with raised concrete or stone curbs, but rather use galvanized steel lawn edging or stainless steel sheets, as I want to create curved shapes. Additionally, I want the transition between the paving and the planting beds to be barely noticeable, which is why thin sheet metal on a roll seems suitable. Has anyone done something like this before? How thick should the sheet metal be?

There are also plastic edging systems that are fixed with ground spikes. Has anyone used these?

I would appreciate any feedback or experiences.
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ypg
16 Jan 2019 17:21
I wouldn’t recommend doing that for driveways.
The weight of the car pushes the paving stones aside. I would rather set the edges, which will be mortared, a bit deeper.
bortel schrieb:
which is why the thin sheet metal on the roll is suitable.
Has anyone ever built it like that? How thick should the metal sheet be?


Thin metal/thick metal.
Thin sheets like lawn edging metal won’t hold heavily loaded stones in place over time, while thick metal sheets can’t be easily bent. They also won’t hold the desired curve firmly but will spring back straight again.
You could mortar the metal sheets deep into the ground, but then you’d need to apply counter pressure until they are fixed. That would be one option. But then the metal sheets would be redundant, since you could just mortar the paving stones directly.
bortel schrieb:
since I want to create curved sections


You will still need to cut the paving stones, which will be a tedious task.
tomtom7916 Jan 2019 18:25
I saw this at a neighbor's house – these are profiles at least 7-8m (23-26 feet) long that are concreted in place. It looks very good. He used them to border the terrace and the path around the house. I would like to take a picture, but that might be a bit too much.
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bortel
17 Jan 2019 05:44
Yes, I had thought about embedding the 15-20cm (6-8 inches) high metal sheets with back supports on both the front and back in concrete. I assumed that this would prevent any movement. I like it when the separation is not visible.

Alternatively, we could use a paving stone placed at a 90° angle to create the border. That would also be possible.

Well, I just want to gather ideas for now. They definitely should not be curbs.

I am aware that the curved outline also has some disadvantages, but I have already drawn it and think it fits well.

Attached is a sketch.

3D model of a skatepark with green ramps and gray floor.


On the left, you can see the cistern cover. That area is planned to have reeds, pampas grass, and shrubs, covered with lava granules, so I can still access the cistern. On the right is the carport that will be built in front of the garage. The two other green areas will be planted to reduce the large paved surface (after the green area, about 130m² (1400 sq ft) remains).

Maybe there are other ideas as well.
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Maria16
17 Jan 2019 07:32
There are probably also beveled edges, but I don’t remember the exact term and am not sure if they are suitable for curves. Maybe turf edging or something like that? We didn’t install them because there is so little topsoil above them that the grass tends to die or dry out easily. But they might be suitable for planting beds?
blaupuma16 Feb 2019 23:34
This week, I had 180 m2 (1,937 ft2) paved. Terraces, parking area, paths...

Only the necessary parts received edging. The rest did not.

(p.s. the parking area had to have edging) See photo

Paved stone path leading to a staircase on a construction site.