Hello everyone,
I have now received a quote from a local painter and would like to get some feedback on it:
I should mention that I have not yet had the chance to clarify individual details of the offer with the company.
In general, we requested the following for our new bungalow build:
Execution of all drywall finishing including plaster beads, priming, wallpapering, and white painting, as well as sealing connection joints/transitions between walls and ceiling.
We wanted an offer for medium-textured woodchip wallpaper (Raufaser) painted white and alternatively for white painted non-woven fiber wallpaper (fleece wallpaper).
Materials offered or to be used:
Drywall compound:
StoLevell in Fill
Ardex 828
Woodchip wallpaper:
StoEuro Trend medium,
Metylan TG/Power,
Non-woven fiber wallpaper:
StoTap Pro 500,
StoTex Coll,
Paints:
StoColor Opticryl Matt;
Connection joints/transitions:
Sista F130
According to the quote, the painter plans to apply level 2 finish (Q2), followed by level 3 (Q3), and then depending on our choice, glue and paint either the woodchip or the non-woven fiber wallpaper.
I have the following questions:
The walls were lined with Fermacell boards by the house builder:
Is the Sto material suitable for Fermacell, or does it require special products? In other words, are these materials compatible?
Is it necessary to apply level 3 finishing for woodchip wallpaper? The price difference between woodchip wallpaper with Q2+Q3 and non-woven fiber wallpaper with Q2+Q3 is so small that it doesn’t make much sense to choose woodchip. The difference is only about 300€ (approximately 300€).
Regarding Q2 and Q3 finishing, it seems the painter didn’t provide much detail to break down the work. Or has he maybe considered that applying Q3 directly makes sense, so that if the walls are renovated later and non-woven fiber wallpaper is chosen, the Q3 finish is already done?
I have now received a quote from a local painter and would like to get some feedback on it:
I should mention that I have not yet had the chance to clarify individual details of the offer with the company.
In general, we requested the following for our new bungalow build:
Execution of all drywall finishing including plaster beads, priming, wallpapering, and white painting, as well as sealing connection joints/transitions between walls and ceiling.
We wanted an offer for medium-textured woodchip wallpaper (Raufaser) painted white and alternatively for white painted non-woven fiber wallpaper (fleece wallpaper).
Materials offered or to be used:
Drywall compound:
StoLevell in Fill
Ardex 828
Woodchip wallpaper:
StoEuro Trend medium,
Metylan TG/Power,
Non-woven fiber wallpaper:
StoTap Pro 500,
StoTex Coll,
Paints:
StoColor Opticryl Matt;
Connection joints/transitions:
Sista F130
According to the quote, the painter plans to apply level 2 finish (Q2), followed by level 3 (Q3), and then depending on our choice, glue and paint either the woodchip or the non-woven fiber wallpaper.
I have the following questions:
The walls were lined with Fermacell boards by the house builder:
Is the Sto material suitable for Fermacell, or does it require special products? In other words, are these materials compatible?
Is it necessary to apply level 3 finishing for woodchip wallpaper? The price difference between woodchip wallpaper with Q2+Q3 and non-woven fiber wallpaper with Q2+Q3 is so small that it doesn’t make much sense to choose woodchip. The difference is only about 300€ (approximately 300€).
Regarding Q2 and Q3 finishing, it seems the painter didn’t provide much detail to break down the work. Or has he maybe considered that applying Q3 directly makes sense, so that if the walls are renovated later and non-woven fiber wallpaper is chosen, the Q3 finish is already done?
Wtf... why do you want to wallpaper Q3 with woodchip or fleece wallpaper?
You can wallpaper woodchip directly onto the precast concrete ceiling panels once the joints have been filled!
Either you have too much money to spend or you want to make life difficult for the painter.
You can wallpaper woodchip directly onto the precast concrete ceiling panels once the joints have been filled!
Either you have too much money to spend or you want to make life difficult for the painter.
Sorry, I only know this from hearsay: for woodchip wallpaper at least a Q2 level of joint filler is required, and for fleece wallpaper at least Q3. If no wallpaper is applied and only paint is used, I was told a minimum of Q4. However, this refers to drywall (gypsum board), so my question is whether it is different for Fermacell?
User0815 schrieb:
My painter said that for classic textured wallpaper (not fine), level 2 finish is enough, but for non-woven wallpapers you need a good level 3 or 4 finish, otherwise every imperfection shows through. He’s right. If you want smooth walls, and for level 3 I would always use a painter’s fleece; without it, the walls quickly look bad. We can directly compare with our neighbors: we used fleece, they didn’t, and the same company did the plaster. After almost two years, we have no cracks, but next door there were several visible cracks after just a few months, which looks unattractive.
Q2 plaster is ready for wallpapering. Q3 is suitable for fleece. Q4 would be for joint fillers measured in millimeters.
Sto Levell Fill-in is good. Ardex as well. Why choose Optycryl as a coating instead of Stobasic? Optycryl is a type of latex and often unnecessary in many cases. Basic is a good dispersion paint. Fermacell or drywall (plasterboard), the filler doesn't matter.
Sto Levell Fill-in is good. Ardex as well. Why choose Optycryl as a coating instead of Stobasic? Optycryl is a type of latex and often unnecessary in many cases. Basic is a good dispersion paint. Fermacell or drywall (plasterboard), the filler doesn't matter.
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