ᐅ Painting the facade: Costs and paint options – Is Renovo the same as Brillux?
Created on: 4 Nov 2016 20:00
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saffamo
Hello builders, homeowners, and do-it-yourself enthusiasts,
I am deciding whether to have my nearly completed house painted with silicate paint by the construction company, as stated in the purchase contract, or to paint it myself and receive a credit of 2000 €.
The question is: what is worth it?
The surface area to be painted is about 206 m² (2215 sq ft).
I can get scaffolding free of charge!
At first, I looked at a silicate paint from Brillux.
Then a friend told me that the store brand Renovo (from Hagebaumarkt) is actually made by Brillux.
Does anyone have experience with this or can provide more information?
Could Renovo’s silicate paint be of good quality?
If so, it might be worthwhile to paint it myself, since the Brillux paint is quite expensive.
What would be a reasonable estimate of the cost to paint about 206 m² (2215 sq ft) with a good quality paint, including priming?
Thanks in advance for your answers.
I am deciding whether to have my nearly completed house painted with silicate paint by the construction company, as stated in the purchase contract, or to paint it myself and receive a credit of 2000 €.
The question is: what is worth it?
The surface area to be painted is about 206 m² (2215 sq ft).
I can get scaffolding free of charge!
At first, I looked at a silicate paint from Brillux.
Then a friend told me that the store brand Renovo (from Hagebaumarkt) is actually made by Brillux.
Does anyone have experience with this or can provide more information?
Could Renovo’s silicate paint be of good quality?
If so, it might be worthwhile to paint it myself, since the Brillux paint is quite expensive.
What would be a reasonable estimate of the cost to paint about 206 m² (2215 sq ft) with a good quality paint, including priming?
Thanks in advance for your answers.
saffamo schrieb:
What do you think about this?Not much... how many hours of your valuable free time will you have to invest for this? A saving of €1,300, for example, in 40 hours of work. That would be €32.50 per hour in this example. Honestly, my hour of free time is worth more, significantly more.
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Bieber08158 Nov 2016 14:14saffamo schrieb:
What do you think about this? And especially regarding Brillux / private label filling!? I once requested a data sheet for the store brand from toom (or was it even Renovo?). It actually had Brillux on it. On the other hand, Brillux can also supply different quality levels. In my humble experience, products from specialized building supply stores are generally of higher quality (often meaning easier to apply) than retail products from home improvement stores. Personally, I wouldn’t want to skimp on the materials.
Then there’s the paint equipment. And the accessories (masking, laying down protection, scaffolding). You get those for free, but are they also set up and taken down for you?
Whether this is a good deal for you, only you can decide... I would gladly pay 2,000 euros, but I’m not you.
Maybe ask again if the credit really is only 2,000 euros. That seems low to me, but it’s probably due to the circumstances.
@Jochen:
Yes, that’s the manufacturer’s specification.
With two coats of paint, the cost for paint is just under 400€, plus primer and materials. Minus 20%, so I think it will be between 500 and 600€.
You just tape off the windows completely.
@Bieber:
That was my main question—whether the private label Renovo, filled by Brillux, is of lower quality or not.
Personally, I can imagine that might be true, but I still think it’s far better than the DIY store paints available before private labels were filled by well-known manufacturers.
I’m really torn on this. Nowadays, it’s common practice to fill or package the same quality under private labels, like in the food industry, for example.
I can only explain the 2000-euro difference like this: When you buy a turnkey house today, you can exclude some services from the total purchase price and do them yourself. Unfortunately, the value you save is often not really what it should be worth. Of course, the company still profits from that. It’s different if you only have the shell of the house built and then decide whether to hire contractors for individual tasks or not. In that case, it’s definitely worth doing some work yourself!
No, we’ll set up the scaffolding ourselves, no problem. Sure, that takes time, but I’ll explain more about that below.
@Robson:
Yes, you’re absolutely right—free time is very valuable.
Nevertheless, I enjoy taking the time myself because I find it more than fun to do the work hands-on, and whether it takes 30 or 40 hours, I roughly save between 1300 and 1500 euros. But of course, everyone sees that differently, and that’s perfectly fine.
I think I might have expressed my main point a bit incorrectly or not at all. It was about whether anyone has experience with, for example, the Renovo private label and what they think about whether it can still be good quality, given it is filled by a well-known manufacturer.
Yes, that’s the manufacturer’s specification.
With two coats of paint, the cost for paint is just under 400€, plus primer and materials. Minus 20%, so I think it will be between 500 and 600€.
You just tape off the windows completely.
@Bieber:
That was my main question—whether the private label Renovo, filled by Brillux, is of lower quality or not.
Personally, I can imagine that might be true, but I still think it’s far better than the DIY store paints available before private labels were filled by well-known manufacturers.
I’m really torn on this. Nowadays, it’s common practice to fill or package the same quality under private labels, like in the food industry, for example.
I can only explain the 2000-euro difference like this: When you buy a turnkey house today, you can exclude some services from the total purchase price and do them yourself. Unfortunately, the value you save is often not really what it should be worth. Of course, the company still profits from that. It’s different if you only have the shell of the house built and then decide whether to hire contractors for individual tasks or not. In that case, it’s definitely worth doing some work yourself!
No, we’ll set up the scaffolding ourselves, no problem. Sure, that takes time, but I’ll explain more about that below.
@Robson:
Yes, you’re absolutely right—free time is very valuable.
Nevertheless, I enjoy taking the time myself because I find it more than fun to do the work hands-on, and whether it takes 30 or 40 hours, I roughly save between 1300 and 1500 euros. But of course, everyone sees that differently, and that’s perfectly fine.
I think I might have expressed my main point a bit incorrectly or not at all. It was about whether anyone has experience with, for example, the Renovo private label and what they think about whether it can still be good quality, given it is filled by a well-known manufacturer.
Herbsthofer9 Nov 2016 19:23My predecessors are probably right. For the first coat, you definitely need to apply two layers. So you will certainly need around 90 liters of silicate paint. In my company, I calculate 13 professional minutes per m² for priming and two coats. So you will need about 17 minutes per m², which amounts to roughly 60 hours of work and at least 800 euros for low-cost silicate paint. We estimate at least 20 euros per m² for priming and two coats of paint. Viewed this way, 2000 euros would be a bargain.
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Bieber08159 Nov 2016 21:12saffamo schrieb:
30 or 40 hours As a self-employed person, you multiply that by your (net) hourly rate and compare the result to 2000 euros. That’s how a rational economic actor would do it, but of course, you can also paint your facade just for the fun of it.
Renovo or not, I would buy the paint from a specialist retailer, probably the Brillux product. I might be a bit extreme in that regard :P.
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