ᐅ Overwhelmed by a basic kitchenette – does anyone have any ideas?
Created on: 3 Apr 2019 21:34
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hampshire
In the apartments for our guys, I have a straight wall with a length of 2.9 m (9.5 feet) where I want to install a small kitchen unit. Both kitchen units should be identical but mirrored in their layout. In one corner, a 24 kW tankless water heater needs to fit inside a base cabinet to supply both the kitchen and bathroom. This unit is approximately 45 cm (18 inches) high, 25 cm (10 inches) wide, and 10 cm (4 inches) deep.
The kitchen should include a sink with a small draining area, two cooking zones, a small oven with a microwave function, and a built-in refrigerator with a freezer compartment. A range hood can be omitted. The ceiling height in this area is 2.45 m (8 feet). It would be ideal to have the microwave device in a slightly taller cabinet at working height.
There should be enough space for basic cookware, dishes, cutlery, glasses, food supplies, waste, and some cleaning materials for the apartment. I’m only getting unsatisfactory results experimenting with pen and paper and curse both the Sweet 3D program and the Ikea online planner equally. Who has the time, interest, and passion to help me?
The kitchen should include a sink with a small draining area, two cooking zones, a small oven with a microwave function, and a built-in refrigerator with a freezer compartment. A range hood can be omitted. The ceiling height in this area is 2.45 m (8 feet). It would be ideal to have the microwave device in a slightly taller cabinet at working height.
There should be enough space for basic cookware, dishes, cutlery, glasses, food supplies, waste, and some cleaning materials for the apartment. I’m only getting unsatisfactory results experimenting with pen and paper and curse both the Sweet 3D program and the Ikea online planner equally. Who has the time, interest, and passion to help me?
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hampshire7 Apr 2019 16:49perth schrieb:
what other furniture is planned for the room? maybe you can sketch it in. There will certainly be a sofa opposite the stove. Nothing else is decided yet. Philipp was thinking of a kind of bar for two near the kitchen. Sleeping and working at the computer will take place on the mezzanine. A closet is located in the hallway, so no additional one is needed in the living area. Further storage options are available in the knee wall spaces on the mezzanine, so there is no need for dressers or similar furniture. A shelf will surely find a place as well.
If the countertop is moved down a row, the refrigerator would also need to be pulled forward. This means a side panel would be required along the full depth to cover the 10cm (4 inches) at the back. Side panels are expensive.
However, I believe there isn’t enough space for this side panel.
For greater depth, base cabinets with extra depth can be purchased (not the sink base cabinet), and wall cabinets can be hung with some spacing from the wall. The cooktop would need to be installed slightly deeper.
I’m not sure if a small island with seating at the counter is still desired.
The example is not extra deep, has a 6-module grid, and a 78cm (31 inch) cabinet carcass height. Nobilia and Nolte offer somewhat lower cabinet carcasses at a more affordable price.
How tall are the boys?
However, I believe there isn’t enough space for this side panel.
For greater depth, base cabinets with extra depth can be purchased (not the sink base cabinet), and wall cabinets can be hung with some spacing from the wall. The cooktop would need to be installed slightly deeper.
I’m not sure if a small island with seating at the counter is still desired.
The example is not extra deep, has a 6-module grid, and a 78cm (31 inch) cabinet carcass height. Nobilia and Nolte offer somewhat lower cabinet carcasses at a more affordable price.
How tall are the boys?
So… I definitely think a dishwasher is very important. Even if the gentlemen might not put the dishes away right now – when given the choice between unloading and loading the dishwasher or washing by hand, they will probably prefer the dishwasher. Also, there might be guests or even women moving in sometime in the near future.
For that reason, I would plan for a dishwasher, a sink, a combination appliance with microwave and convection oven, and a small fridge with a freezer compartment that can at least hold a few pizza boxes and a small bag of ice cubes. A two-burner cooktop should be sufficient.
An extra-deep countertop is great; I once had one in a small kitchen. The countertop was 80cm (31.5 inches) deep. The wall cabinets above it were easy to reach; for the upper shelves, there was a small step stool. Such a deep countertop is fantastic for storing a toaster, kettle, and coffee machine without losing workspace. I also think it’s important to have plenty of cabinets to store some small pantry items – which can increase over the years – as well as kitchen appliances.
For that reason, I would plan for a dishwasher, a sink, a combination appliance with microwave and convection oven, and a small fridge with a freezer compartment that can at least hold a few pizza boxes and a small bag of ice cubes. A two-burner cooktop should be sufficient.
An extra-deep countertop is great; I once had one in a small kitchen. The countertop was 80cm (31.5 inches) deep. The wall cabinets above it were easy to reach; for the upper shelves, there was a small step stool. Such a deep countertop is fantastic for storing a toaster, kettle, and coffee machine without losing workspace. I also think it’s important to have plenty of cabinets to store some small pantry items – which can increase over the years – as well as kitchen appliances.
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hampshire8 Apr 2019 22:37@perth: Thank you very much for your effort and the very attractive design! I'll show it to my wife. The increased depth is really great; the boys aren’t giants and with heights of 1.75 and 1.85 meters (5 ft 9 in and 6 ft 1 in), the upper cabinets should work out. The budget will be tight, though, since both wanted a wood stove as a highlight. Together with the chimney, they consume a substantial amount of money.
@Fummelbrett: Definitely no dishwasher. I don’t want to deal with the frustration. In our kitchen, we will only have the connections installed. Washing by hand really isn’t a big deal. Some of our items aren’t dishwasher-safe anyway, like knives, cast iron pots, iron pans, handmade ceramics, teapots...
@Fummelbrett: Definitely no dishwasher. I don’t want to deal with the frustration. In our kitchen, we will only have the connections installed. Washing by hand really isn’t a big deal. Some of our items aren’t dishwasher-safe anyway, like knives, cast iron pots, iron pans, handmade ceramics, teapots...
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chand19869 Apr 2019 08:43hampshire schrieb:
Definitely no dishwasher. I don’t want to deal with the hassle. Why would there be anything to complain about?
In my case, without a dishwasher, I’d have to wash pots, pans, plates, cups, glasses, all multiple times if more than one meal is cooked over the weekend, plus the guests’ dishes... no way! That would mean spending an extra three quarters of an hour in the kitchen.
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hampshire9 Apr 2019 08:58chand1986 schrieb:
Why is there something to be upset about? Unfortunately, I get upset when my belongings are treated disrespectfully. Due to a lack of better self-management in this area, I eliminate one source of everyday frustration.
When guests have been here, I find it relaxing to go over the events together with my wife and tidy up at the same time.
For two people, washing dishes immediately is not a problem; we know this from living in a motorhome (even without a dishwasher). When the whole family is together, we wash, dry, and put things away together.
While cooking, I make it a habit to wash and put away any items that are no longer needed right away. This keeps the kitchen from getting messy.
A friend takes the opposite approach and has two dishwashers in the kitchen. These are less expensive than a base cabinet, and he never has to unload clean dishes. One dishwasher is dirty, the other is clean.
To each their own.
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