Good evening!
I come from the Tübingen district and I am 27 years old. My wife and I have now received confirmation for our desired plot, which we will buy in the next few days. Now the planning for the actual house begins.
I am a complete beginner and have browsed this forum a bit, but it’s overwhelming. All the information drives me crazy and discourages me; I don’t even know where to start!
We don’t have a huge budget and want to build with a construction company such as Heinz von Heiden, Town & Country, or Scanhaus Marlow. Some kind of builder that is not the most expensive but still delivers good quality work, preferably solid construction. There are good and bad reviews about every builder online, so I won’t even ask here for recommendations, right?
What I have found out so far are the following hidden costs: (House only, no landscaping)
On top of the “turnkey price,” I have to calculate:
1. About 25,000€ (27,500 USD) additional construction costs
2. Kitchen
3. Lighting fixtures
4. Own work, usually: flooring/wall work + materials
5. Basically add about 20,000€ (22,000 USD) for selections to the stated “turnkey price” because the standard is often too basic
I need to pay attention to the construction description included with “turnkey”:
1. Is triple glazing included?
2. What standard is installed?
3. Heat pump, etc.?
4. What extras do I want + what does all that cost?
I would like to know now:
1. What is the best way to proceed? I want to schedule appointments with the companies mentioned above. How do I best prepare for meetings with these somewhat opaque builders?
2. What other hidden costs should I watch out for that I haven’t mentioned or don’t know yet?
3. What must the house absolutely have in terms of “equipment”/standard?
An example of how I calculate:
House standard turnkey: about 170,000€ (187,000 USD)
Selections: about 20,000€ (22,000 USD)
Additional construction costs: about 25,000€ (27,500 USD)
Flooring + wall materials: about 6,000€ (6,600 USD)
Kitchen: about 15,000€ (16,500 USD)
Lighting: about 3,000€ (3,300 USD)
Financial buffer: about 5,000€ (5,500 USD)
= 244,000€ (269,000 USD)
Is this correct? Am I missing anything? Do I need to add anything else, if yes, what?
I would really appreciate your help!
Best regards
I come from the Tübingen district and I am 27 years old. My wife and I have now received confirmation for our desired plot, which we will buy in the next few days. Now the planning for the actual house begins.
I am a complete beginner and have browsed this forum a bit, but it’s overwhelming. All the information drives me crazy and discourages me; I don’t even know where to start!
We don’t have a huge budget and want to build with a construction company such as Heinz von Heiden, Town & Country, or Scanhaus Marlow. Some kind of builder that is not the most expensive but still delivers good quality work, preferably solid construction. There are good and bad reviews about every builder online, so I won’t even ask here for recommendations, right?
What I have found out so far are the following hidden costs: (House only, no landscaping)
On top of the “turnkey price,” I have to calculate:
1. About 25,000€ (27,500 USD) additional construction costs
2. Kitchen
3. Lighting fixtures
4. Own work, usually: flooring/wall work + materials
5. Basically add about 20,000€ (22,000 USD) for selections to the stated “turnkey price” because the standard is often too basic
I need to pay attention to the construction description included with “turnkey”:
1. Is triple glazing included?
2. What standard is installed?
3. Heat pump, etc.?
4. What extras do I want + what does all that cost?
I would like to know now:
1. What is the best way to proceed? I want to schedule appointments with the companies mentioned above. How do I best prepare for meetings with these somewhat opaque builders?
2. What other hidden costs should I watch out for that I haven’t mentioned or don’t know yet?
3. What must the house absolutely have in terms of “equipment”/standard?
An example of how I calculate:
House standard turnkey: about 170,000€ (187,000 USD)
Selections: about 20,000€ (22,000 USD)
Additional construction costs: about 25,000€ (27,500 USD)
Flooring + wall materials: about 6,000€ (6,600 USD)
Kitchen: about 15,000€ (16,500 USD)
Lighting: about 3,000€ (3,300 USD)
Financial buffer: about 5,000€ (5,500 USD)
= 244,000€ (269,000 USD)
Is this correct? Am I missing anything? Do I need to add anything else, if yes, what?
I would really appreciate your help!
Best regards
P
Peanuts7412 Aug 2016 11:32Evolith schrieb:
I already addressed your "accusations" above.
However, I am surprised at how much some people seem to pamper their children through my eyes. Does a teenager really need a couch and a side table in addition to their bed? Does it have to be a 15m² (160 ft²) room to nearly set up an entire apartment there? Why is 4m² (43 ft²) of play space no longer enough for playing with Lego? Our teenager moves around in his current 20m² (215 ft²) room on about 8m² (86 ft²). He doesn’t use the rest at all. He’s actually looking forward to moving into a smaller room. "Then I won’t have to walk so far anymore." And our youngest zips around the living room and hallway on a balance bike, chases the cats, or plays in his play corner (1m x 1.5m (3 ft x 5 ft) rug in the living room).
For the thread starter: From the discussion, which risks drifting away from your topic, you can take away that you should think carefully about what you really need. If you don’t have children yet, it’s a bit harder to estimate. I also always imagined that kids would play in the children’s room. Well, now it’s mainly the living room. Define precisely what is important for you. Maybe don’t just think about the kids but also about yourselves. YOU will still be living there once the children have long since moved out. YOU will still be paying for it then.
So now I’ll send you the list first.
Oh dear, poor cats. Hopefully the noise won’t be too bad when they finally use their claws…
It’s at least funny that a young person finds walking distances in 20m² (215 ft²) too far ;-D
For example, I’ve never experienced a shared flat where there was a fight over the smallest room *lol*
But in the end, everyone plans for themselves, you’re absolutely right about that…
Curly schrieb:
I’m surprised at how little time most people spend in the bedroom. For me, a large bedroom is important. I do the ironing there and like to watch a movie in bed in the evening, so 12 sqm (130 sq ft) would be far too small.
Best regards,
Sabine I have space for ironing in the utility room, and when I watch a movie lying in bed, I don’t really need more space, do I? (Not that we don’t do it sometimes, but the TV will probably be mounted on the wall.)
Climbee schrieb:
Evolith, this is my first time commenting here...
Exactly, I primarily live there, which is why, for example, I planned our bedroom on the north side. A third room is on the south side. Since we don’t have children, we use that room as a hobby/work space during the day; we sleep at night and I prefer the bedroom to be cooler with no direct sunlight and don’t need much more space than enough to comfortably fit our bed (and if you don’t have a walk-in closet, enough room for a wardrobe).
Especially considering that the children won’t live in the house forever, I would carefully think about how to use these rooms FOR MYSELF later on. With many couples, it happens that they eventually sleep separately (because one partner starts snoring heavily). A good solution then is if both rooms can accommodate double beds (because you don’t want to sleep apart all the time but want to keep all options open). I don’t see how that would work with 10m² (108 ft²). The former children’s room can then be used as a guest room; it also makes sense to have at least a small double bed there (children might visit again, possibly as a couple). I can use one room as a hobby/workroom and, as mentioned above, I find it more practical for that space to be on the brighter side facing the garden, as it is used during the day, unlike the bedroom.
Especially when thinking about how children’s rooms can be used after the child-raising phase, such a layout should be avoided.Once the children have moved out and I need a bright hobby room, I can always swap the rooms. The children’s rooms are very well located and very bright. Thanks to the cul-de-sac with only eight houses, it’s also very quiet. The bedroom is theoretically noisier because of the nearby railway and garden use. A double bed with a wardrobe and dresser fits very well there too, although I’m more a fan of sofa beds.P
Peanuts7412 Aug 2016 11:38Climbee schrieb:
I have space for ironing in the utility room, and if I’m watching a movie lying in bed, do I really need more space??? (Not that we don’t do that sometimes, but the TV will probably be mounted on the wall)That’s true, the shorter the distance from the head of the bed to the opposite wall, the more favorable the viewing angle is...
Peanuts74 schrieb:
Oh dear, poor cats. Hopefully, the noise won’t be too bad when they sharpen their claws...
It's at least funny that a young person finds walking across 20m² (215 square feet) too far ;-D
For example, I’ve never experienced a shared flat where people argue over the smallest room *lol*
But in the end, everyone plans for themselves, you’re absolutely right... Oh, the cats defend themselves when things get too rough or retreat to their high spots. The little one usually handles the animals very carefully, except when he gets carried away with excitement, and then he sometimes has to take a scratch.
Yes, we were quite surprised when the older one brought it up. He is very practical and... also lazy. It was important to him that he could fit our current living room sofa in there for sleeping.
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