ᐅ Overwhelmed by Bathroom Tiling Options – Any Alternatives?
Created on: 17 Aug 2016 12:20
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Knallkörper
Hello forum members,
In our new build, we have an 18 m² (193.75 sq ft) bathroom with a sloped ceiling and a 4.7 m² (50.6 sq ft) guest toilet. The main bathroom is planned to include a large walk-in shower measuring 1.20 x 1.00 m (3.9 x 3.3 ft), a stylish V&B bathtub, a double vanity, and an elegant toilet. The fittings for the shower and bathtub will be concealed-mounted.
The guest toilet will not have a bathtub and will only have a simple washbasin, but we want a slightly larger, attractive shower and a nice toilet as well.
We have received a quote from our general contractor’s preferred plumber. They want nearly 25,000 euros extra for the sanitary installation. Of this, 13,750 euros are for the “washbasin unit with mirror cabinet” in the main bathroom.
When I compare the largest material items in the overall quote with prices found online, I could save about 8,000 euros by purchasing the materials myself. For example:
V&B Squaro Edge 12 bathtub 190 x 90 cm (6.2 x 3 ft)
Installer’s quote: 1,655 euros (delivery only, plus installation)
Online price: 850 euros including shipping
The biggest discrepancies are with the individual parts of the Keuco “washbasin unit,” with price differences of over 100%.
Now I’m considering what to do. Ideally, I would decline the entire offer politely and source (almost) all parts myself and install them. Negotiation seems pointless since my idea of a fair price appears far from the plumber’s expectations.
So far, our own contribution to the whole house has been “only” laying all the flooring and doing all the tiling. If I install the sanitary fixtures myself, I wouldn’t have any scheduling conflicts with the general contractor. My plan is to have the GC’s plumber only make the connections at the correct positions. They can keep their standard fixtures. Then I would buy the bathtub, etc., at a better price and either install everything myself or hire another company for the installation.
Could this work? What should I consider regarding drywall work — is it done before or after the installation of the sanitary fixtures?
I would appreciate any suggestions or experience reports related to this kind of project.
In our new build, we have an 18 m² (193.75 sq ft) bathroom with a sloped ceiling and a 4.7 m² (50.6 sq ft) guest toilet. The main bathroom is planned to include a large walk-in shower measuring 1.20 x 1.00 m (3.9 x 3.3 ft), a stylish V&B bathtub, a double vanity, and an elegant toilet. The fittings for the shower and bathtub will be concealed-mounted.
The guest toilet will not have a bathtub and will only have a simple washbasin, but we want a slightly larger, attractive shower and a nice toilet as well.
We have received a quote from our general contractor’s preferred plumber. They want nearly 25,000 euros extra for the sanitary installation. Of this, 13,750 euros are for the “washbasin unit with mirror cabinet” in the main bathroom.
When I compare the largest material items in the overall quote with prices found online, I could save about 8,000 euros by purchasing the materials myself. For example:
V&B Squaro Edge 12 bathtub 190 x 90 cm (6.2 x 3 ft)
Installer’s quote: 1,655 euros (delivery only, plus installation)
Online price: 850 euros including shipping
The biggest discrepancies are with the individual parts of the Keuco “washbasin unit,” with price differences of over 100%.
Now I’m considering what to do. Ideally, I would decline the entire offer politely and source (almost) all parts myself and install them. Negotiation seems pointless since my idea of a fair price appears far from the plumber’s expectations.
So far, our own contribution to the whole house has been “only” laying all the flooring and doing all the tiling. If I install the sanitary fixtures myself, I wouldn’t have any scheduling conflicts with the general contractor. My plan is to have the GC’s plumber only make the connections at the correct positions. They can keep their standard fixtures. Then I would buy the bathtub, etc., at a better price and either install everything myself or hire another company for the installation.
Could this work? What should I consider regarding drywall work — is it done before or after the installation of the sanitary fixtures?
I would appreciate any suggestions or experience reports related to this kind of project.
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HilfeHilfe23 Aug 2016 07:37
For a simple bathroom cabinet, though, I would feel bad spending the money, just like @HilfeHilfe already said: every smudge would hurt then I would have liked that one you always are so stingy
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daniels8723 Aug 2016 18:07I also find it quite surprising how much money can be spent on bathrooms. We are doing it similarly to ypg (IKEA and countertop). All-in, including the bathroom and guest toilet, we stay under 4000€ (approximately 4000 euros). We were credited around 3600€ (approximately 3600 euros) by the builder for removing the sanitary fixtures in front of the wall.
We are only having the walk-in shower with recessed fixtures installed.
We are only having the walk-in shower with recessed fixtures installed.
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Peanuts7424 Aug 2016 12:08Knallkörper schrieb:
Hello!
I can copy it here. We are now looking for alternatives.
2 units Keuco Royal 60 washbasin 1055x538 mm (42x21 inches) white
2 units Keuco Edition 11 bathroom vanity cabinet 1050x535x350 mm (41x21x14 inches)
1 unit Keuco Edition 11 sideboard
1 unit Keuco Edition 11 glass shelf 366x3x524 mm (14x0.1x21 inches)
2 units Keuco Edition 400 single-lever basin mixer with pop-up waste, chrome finish, delivery included
2 units Keuco Edition 400 recessed mirrored cabinet 1060x650 mm (42x26 inches)
2 doorsThe Subway 2.0 models are also rectangular and come in various sizes. Maybe they are interesting and possibly more affordable?
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Peanuts7424 Aug 2016 12:48Jochen104 schrieb:
Subway 2.0 is definitely more affordable. And there are alternatives to the original furniture from Villeroy & Boch.Exactly, that’s what I thought. Just thinking about the toilet paper holder. Keuco is really good, but also quite expensive.
For our 130cm (51 inches) washbasin cabinet, we were lucky—or patient—until someone sold a new, original packaged one on eBay for, I believe, 550.- instead of over 1500 list price or 900 internet price.
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Sebastian7924 Aug 2016 12:50Our bathroom supplier made everything from the Keuco Edition 11 look really appealing – but when I saw the prices, I immediately crossed it off.
I think I mentioned this before, but it’s definitely better to buy such items yourself, and it’s worth checking classifieds or eBay. That way, we were still able to treat ourselves to the nice things...
I think I mentioned this before, but it’s definitely better to buy such items yourself, and it’s worth checking classifieds or eBay. That way, we were still able to treat ourselves to the nice things...
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