ᐅ Outdoor Lighting: Motion Sensors and Continuous Operation?

Created on: 9 Oct 2022 15:54
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JaiBee07
Hello everyone,

I’m finding it more challenging than expected to decide on the outdoor lighting electrical setup and would appreciate your input on how you implemented yours and whether you’re satisfied with your decisions.
It concerns which outdoor lights should be controlled manually or automatically.

The property is a detached house. The street view shows the entrance with a canopy in the middle of the left side of the house, a small front garden with a path on the left and right, a carport with an additional parking space in front on the right side of the house, and a larger terrace with stairs leading to the garden at the back.

I have planned one light under the entrance canopy, controlled manually from inside.
In the front left corner, a motion sensor light, not manually switchable.
In the front right corner (in front of the carport), another motion sensor light, also not manually switchable.
Here is the question whether fully automatic control makes sense, or if it might be better to have an option for manual switching as well.

Under the carport, I plan a separate manually controlled light (because the motion sensor probably won’t work there) in case you need to load or unload the car in the dark.
The question here is whether it would be better to link this to a motion sensor with a long delay timer?

On the terrace at the back, there are three lights on the house wall, currently only manually controlled. I’d like to convert them to include motion sensors to deter burglars. What do you think, would that be sensible?
I’m also considering adding an automatic dusk sensor. Does that make sense? I often travel for work, so it might make the house appear more occupied.

There are also two small step lights on the stairs to the garden, manually switchable only.

Additionally, wiring for perimeter spotlights in the fascia board is planned, though I’m now questioning whether I will actually install them. Probably not.

It has also been agreed to lay underground cables in the front garden and behind the house, in case there is a future need to light pathways.
Would the front cable then be connected to both motion sensors depending on which direction you want to illuminate in front of the house? Is that even possible? How did you implement this?

Regards
Mahri2310 Oct 2022 10:23
We installed corresponding LED floodlights in the roof box at the top. All of these are connected to motion detectors. At the back of the terrace, we also wired for continuous light or a complete shutdown. The carport is also controlled by a motion detector. There is a concealed LED strip installed there as well. The motion detector only reacts when I drive into the carport, get out, or take things out. It switches off after 45 seconds. All other motion detectors switch off after about 45 seconds as well. For us, this is a perfect solution. Low power consumption and we don’t bother any neighbors or other “complainers.”
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xMisterDx
10 Oct 2022 16:47
Recessed lights in the eaves should generally be prohibited, as should any lighting that remains on permanently at night, meaning it is not controlled by motion detectors. The only exception: recessed lights in the eaves of a bungalow. If the eaves are higher, it results in unnecessary light pollution, disturbance to neighbors, and wasted electricity.
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Dogma
10 Oct 2022 19:23
I am quite surprised at how often bans (in all areas) are being demanded these days. I thought we were all responsible adults. It’s really a shame, very disappointing. I have no more to add and can only shake my head about it. 😳
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xMisterDx
10 Oct 2022 19:26
What does maturity have to do with my immediate neighbors leaving 16 LED spotlights on all night in their eaves box?
As an alternative, I could put 9m (30 feet) of chicken coops right on the property line—then there would be an uproar...
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Dogma
10 Oct 2022 20:10
Well, it’s his money, his costs, his decision.
I can understand if his LED floodlights annoy you (luckily, I don’t have such a jerk as a neighbor), but that’s a problem between you two. That doesn’t mean it has to be banned for everyone in general.
This isn’t specifically about your post now, but generally there are many more cases like this, not just in this forum, which is quite alarming.
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driver55
10 Oct 2022 20:25
Dogma schrieb:

Well, his money, his costs, his decision
That’s not really the point. There are simply many things that “nobody needs.” (And they don’t help either, especially when you show off your uneven plastered facade.) 😀