Hello everyone,
we are also facing a problem:
Our electrician didn’t point out during construction that my lighting concept was not well thought out.
He installed everything exactly as I wanted, so we have no dusk sensor control on the front of our house.
Our two up-down lights in the gable are controlled by one switch. The same applies to two lights on the left side of the house and two lights on the right side. So: 3 switches for 6 lights.
Of course, we often forget to turn off the lights in the morning and turn them on in the evening – in short, we need a proper installation for this.
Since we’re not very familiar with electrical work and my husband refuses to use Google, I thought about new lamps with a dusk sensor. First, to replace the up-down lamps, since one is already weakening and these lamps have built-in LEDs. Only now do I realize that this was a big mistake.
The requirements for these lamps would be: up-down for vertical façade lighting, LED for low energy consumption, dusk sensor, modern gray/black color, replaceable light bulb.
[I’ve been googling for days and can’t find anything.]
-> Do you have anything like this? Do you know where to find such lamps?
The secondary issue is that we have external thermal insulation composite system (ETICS) on the house, so we want to change the lamps as little as possible in the long term.
-> Do you have any alternatives? … regarding regular up-down lights without dusk sensors but with an external dusk sensor? How does that work? Does this small rectangular sensor device have to be connected next to each lamp? Or is there an adjustable control unit somewhere? In the electrical cabinet? Can something be installed in the switches? A timer switch? I once had electric blinds with an intelligent timer switch—can something like that be used? Would it be a problem that we only have a half switch?
Is it worth having an electrician come to set up everything properly at once?
Have a nice weekend,
Yvonne
we are also facing a problem:
Our electrician didn’t point out during construction that my lighting concept was not well thought out.
He installed everything exactly as I wanted, so we have no dusk sensor control on the front of our house.
Our two up-down lights in the gable are controlled by one switch. The same applies to two lights on the left side of the house and two lights on the right side. So: 3 switches for 6 lights.
Of course, we often forget to turn off the lights in the morning and turn them on in the evening – in short, we need a proper installation for this.
Since we’re not very familiar with electrical work and my husband refuses to use Google, I thought about new lamps with a dusk sensor. First, to replace the up-down lamps, since one is already weakening and these lamps have built-in LEDs. Only now do I realize that this was a big mistake.
The requirements for these lamps would be: up-down for vertical façade lighting, LED for low energy consumption, dusk sensor, modern gray/black color, replaceable light bulb.
[I’ve been googling for days and can’t find anything.]
-> Do you have anything like this? Do you know where to find such lamps?
The secondary issue is that we have external thermal insulation composite system (ETICS) on the house, so we want to change the lamps as little as possible in the long term.
-> Do you have any alternatives? … regarding regular up-down lights without dusk sensors but with an external dusk sensor? How does that work? Does this small rectangular sensor device have to be connected next to each lamp? Or is there an adjustable control unit somewhere? In the electrical cabinet? Can something be installed in the switches? A timer switch? I once had electric blinds with an intelligent timer switch—can something like that be used? Would it be a problem that we only have a half switch?
Is it worth having an electrician come to set up everything properly at once?
Have a nice weekend,
Yvonne
toxicmolotow schrieb:
If all three switches are located together in one place, you can connect them and install a timer switch with an astronomical function in between.
That’s probably the simplest solution.So theoretically, connect the "front" switch with the two switches "left side" and "right side," and then install the timer switch from our switching program in that spot? One half of a switch would then be left unused. Never mind. Then mount standard up-down lamps with replaceable bulbs on the wall... Isn’t something like this even doable as a DIY project?
What would happen, or what function would a separate switch have if it still controls one half of the house at a different location? We have a two-way switching function on the carport side. What function would our portable wireless switch on the upper floor have, which was actually purchased so that we can control the outside lights separately from upstairs in case the lights downstairs are off but light is needed there?
T
toxicmolotof31 Jul 2016 00:10Phew... I’ve lost track of the thread somewhere in the text.
It’s not particularly complicated if you know what needs to be connected to what and how. However, I definitely wouldn’t do it alone without an electrician backing me up.
As for the two-way switch... I’m not sure what will become of it or what it can be used for. It will probably lose its function. It might still be usable as an on/off switch if the timer is essentially in the "on" position. The same applies to the wireless switch. But someone needs to take a look at it on site. Perhaps with the right technology, it could be used to bypass the timer and keep the light on continuously.
But that’s really beyond me.
It’s not particularly complicated if you know what needs to be connected to what and how. However, I definitely wouldn’t do it alone without an electrician backing me up.
As for the two-way switch... I’m not sure what will become of it or what it can be used for. It will probably lose its function. It might still be usable as an on/off switch if the timer is essentially in the "on" position. The same applies to the wireless switch. But someone needs to take a look at it on site. Perhaps with the right technology, it could be used to bypass the timer and keep the light on continuously.
But that’s really beyond me.
Ok...
I think we can live with the switches if they are no longer needed. Maybe they can be repurposed.
I have already checked for electricians near us; a one-person company with good references should be sufficient. They can also provide additional advice on our wiring.
At least I am more confident now, even though, of course, these unplanned costs reduce the budget again.
Thank you very much
I think we can live with the switches if they are no longer needed. Maybe they can be repurposed.
I have already checked for electricians near us; a one-person company with good references should be sufficient. They can also provide additional advice on our wiring.
At least I am more confident now, even though, of course, these unplanned costs reduce the budget again.
Thank you very much
Abzahler schrieb:
We have outdoor lights from Steinel. The L800 and L810. Could they be something for you?
But I guess you mean those up-down spotlights. I wanted to get those too, but the L810 is not available in anthracite.
However, it does have the mentioned dusk sensor function.
If it were my home, I would do it myself. But I also have some electrical knowledge. If you have no experience, definitely have it done by a professional.
Regarding the switches:
For the terrace spotlights, I would use a large one as well.
And below that, a timer switch for the three outdoor spotlights. Done.
As far as I know, you will have to disable the changeover switch.
The advantage of this solution is that you can control everything from one central location and have complete flexibility in choosing the lights.
Using an external dusk sensor would have required additional wiring work.
Regarding the switches:
For the terrace spotlights, I would use a large one as well.
And below that, a timer switch for the three outdoor spotlights. Done.
As far as I know, you will have to disable the changeover switch.
The advantage of this solution is that you can control everything from one central location and have complete flexibility in choosing the lights.
Using an external dusk sensor would have required additional wiring work.