Hello.
We would like to share our plans and hear your opinions. Construction is scheduled to start in March next year here in Erfurt.
Please don’t hold back with your suggestions and feedback.
We would like to share our plans and hear your opinions. Construction is scheduled to start in March next year here in Erfurt.
Please don’t hold back with your suggestions and feedback.
erfurter110287 schrieb:
There can't be a window by the sink because the carport is outside there Why is it not possible to install a window on the carport side? Having at least some natural light is better than none at all.
Otherwise, you should seriously reconsider the window in the bathroom. We specifically insisted on not having a window door there. "Otherwise, anyone could see us while showering or washing." (Well—who would want that?)
Regarding storage space, you really should think about it again. Just looking at our current apartment, there is so much stuff that needs to be stored or taken along, plus the basement and office. That includes beverage crates, supplies, cleaning products, vacuum cleaner, winter/summer tires, dryer, and possibly a place for a drying rack (in winter), etc.
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perlenmann22 Oct 2013 09:03A poor reflection on the architect!
The bathroom is unacceptable. You have to walk around the shower just to wash your hands?
The hallway will be a problem when more than two people want to enter at the same time: CONGESTION
Every rental apartment I have lived in had more space in the hallway.
The comment about the window facing the carport is funny—no window allowed there, but the front door is? That makes no sense.
Lots of living space, which will probably end up cluttered because all that stuff has to go somewhere.
Ultimately, you have to live inside and be happy with it. It seems I am not the only one who doesn’t like it.
The bathroom is unacceptable. You have to walk around the shower just to wash your hands?
The hallway will be a problem when more than two people want to enter at the same time: CONGESTION
Every rental apartment I have lived in had more space in the hallway.
The comment about the window facing the carport is funny—no window allowed there, but the front door is? That makes no sense.
Lots of living space, which will probably end up cluttered because all that stuff has to go somewhere.
Ultimately, you have to live inside and be happy with it. It seems I am not the only one who doesn’t like it.
Many others have already commented on the rest, so I won’t add anything more on that.
I wouldn’t design the bedroom with this "false walk-in closet." It’s better to have regular wardrobes, and if you still want to watch TV, consider a solution with a projector and a retractable screen. That way, you can also use the space between the wardrobe and the bed sometimes, for example for ironing or placing a crib during the first few months.
I wouldn’t design the bedroom with this "false walk-in closet." It’s better to have regular wardrobes, and if you still want to watch TV, consider a solution with a projector and a retractable screen. That way, you can also use the space between the wardrobe and the bed sometimes, for example for ironing or placing a crib during the first few months.
Hello,
before we decided to build a house, we looked at several homes. Among them was a relatively new house with about 110 sqm (1,184 sq ft) of living space. Like you (and us too ), it didn’t have a basement planned. The utility room was about 5 sqm (54 sq ft) in size and completely packed with technical equipment! There was absolutely no space left to store anything else.
The house looked so cluttered because, for example, water crates were stored under the stairs, and all the walls were covered with shelves or cabinets.
In my opinion, you need at least 10 sqm (108 sq ft) for a utility room.
Where will you do the laundry? Where will clothes be hung to dry? Where will the beverage crates go? Winter clothing? Sports equipment? Winter/summer blankets?
Could the upstairs bedrooms be planned more evenly? Even if you only sleep in the bedroom, you still have your wardrobes there. In our wardrobes, we also store bedding and towels for the whole family.
We don’t really have much in the wardrobes, but we planned 1.50 m (5 ft) of wardrobe space per person plus 50 cm (20 inches) for bedding, towels, etc., plus two dressers. That wouldn’t fit in your room at all.
On the other hand, I find the bathroom too large. If it was planned better, you could save space here.
I would definitely have the architect take another look at the plans!
before we decided to build a house, we looked at several homes. Among them was a relatively new house with about 110 sqm (1,184 sq ft) of living space. Like you (and us too ), it didn’t have a basement planned. The utility room was about 5 sqm (54 sq ft) in size and completely packed with technical equipment! There was absolutely no space left to store anything else.
The house looked so cluttered because, for example, water crates were stored under the stairs, and all the walls were covered with shelves or cabinets.
In my opinion, you need at least 10 sqm (108 sq ft) for a utility room.
Where will you do the laundry? Where will clothes be hung to dry? Where will the beverage crates go? Winter clothing? Sports equipment? Winter/summer blankets?
Could the upstairs bedrooms be planned more evenly? Even if you only sleep in the bedroom, you still have your wardrobes there. In our wardrobes, we also store bedding and towels for the whole family.
We don’t really have much in the wardrobes, but we planned 1.50 m (5 ft) of wardrobe space per person plus 50 cm (20 inches) for bedding, towels, etc., plus two dressers. That wouldn’t fit in your room at all.
On the other hand, I find the bathroom too large. If it was planned better, you could save space here.
I would definitely have the architect take another look at the plans!
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Bauexperte22 Oct 2013 09:52Hello,
normally, I don’t participate in discussions about floor plans; I usually just get into trouble... But I still think you are going a bit overboard with your criticism of the floor plan. I can easily imagine that the architect’s task was to design something cost-effective with short distances. Well – that has been accomplished, although there was obviously a mistake with the bathroom placement in the top floor; although no one here knows if maybe the original poster specified the bathroom location...?
However, it is true that the lighting is lacking. I understand the concern about ordering the carport, but that argument is weak. Unless the development plan strictly forbids it, the regional building regulations usually allow the building envelope to be exceeded by up to 3.00 m (10 feet) in this area due to parking space requirements. This would make room for a side kitchen window. Alternatively, changing the double carport to a single carport in favor of more kitchen light is an option; another parking space is possible in front of the entrance door.
The 2.00 m (6.5 feet) line leaves little room for window arrangement, especially if shutters are to be installed. However, rooms could be slightly adjusted at the expense of the children’s rooms; 16 sqm (172 sq ft) is quite large – especially considering how little children’s rooms are often used.
Best regards, Bauexperte
normally, I don’t participate in discussions about floor plans; I usually just get into trouble... But I still think you are going a bit overboard with your criticism of the floor plan. I can easily imagine that the architect’s task was to design something cost-effective with short distances. Well – that has been accomplished, although there was obviously a mistake with the bathroom placement in the top floor; although no one here knows if maybe the original poster specified the bathroom location...?
ypg schrieb:Yep. The front wall of the hallway is 2.10 m (7 feet) – by moving the kitchen door (or using an internal sliding door), the original poster will have enough space to store all the wardrobe stuff of a four-person household. The concrete staircase also allows space in the front area – in front of the window strip – to park a stroller.
Well then, I won’t hold back on criticism and start with the entrance on the ground floor, which is too narrow. There is no space in the hallway for a cloakroom or shoes, and with 4 occupants, you have quite a bit of stuff for that; guests will want to come too. So, you could move the kitchen door so that a built-in closet could be placed there,
ypg schrieb:The kitchen layout currently follows the trend; the original poster has additional storage space in the utility room under the stairs.
But the kitchen is also problematic. At least, there should be a window above the sink, natural light is very important [...] Then I wonder if there is enough kitchen furniture for 4 people (we have planned more... for 2 people... and have 3 meters (10 feet) of cabinet space in our freezer room for all the appliances, a second fridge, and pantry). The stove needs counter space on both sides for pots and so on. Plan the kitchen island at least 150 cm (5 feet) wide, otherwise it will be way too small. I think those 17 sqm (183 sq ft) can be used better.
However, it is true that the lighting is lacking. I understand the concern about ordering the carport, but that argument is weak. Unless the development plan strictly forbids it, the regional building regulations usually allow the building envelope to be exceeded by up to 3.00 m (10 feet) in this area due to parking space requirements. This would make room for a side kitchen window. Alternatively, changing the double carport to a single carport in favor of more kitchen light is an option; another parking space is possible in front of the entrance door.
ypg schrieb:The utility room is also a bit small for my liking; however, all the required technical equipment can be accommodated. If ventilation is installed, it will probably be decentralised. As for drying laundry – either a dryer, the garden, or the bathroom are options.
I don’t know how a heat pump is designed, but if it is a box, your freezer room will not be walk-in. Controlled residential ventilation is apparently not installed? It looks like you’re not planning an electrical cabinet either? An electrician requires 150 cm (5 feet) clearance in front of the electrical cabinet (I read somewhere that a freezer room must be at least 180 x 220 cm (6 x 7 feet)? Where do you dry your laundry? So, the necessary spaces are kept very small and almost unusable, while the living area is very generously planned.
ypg schrieb:Not really. Plenty of light comes in through the window strip; besides, for this price segment (€ 5/600.00), a daylight spotlight can be installed. Overall, the hallway is functionally designed, which supports my initial thesis.
The upper floor hallway is very dark.
ypg schrieb:You can safely forget about that. With 1.30 m (4 feet 3 inches) plus roof rafter support, you have enough headroom... even for some physical activity of a more sportive kind.
What knee wall height do you have? We have 130 cm (4 feet 3 inches) and already know we will push the bed forward to be able to sit up comfortably.
ypg schrieb:That would be enough for me as well. A TV connection would be, by the way, a waste of money... I wouldn’t finish watching a movie.
The wall in the bedroom is necessary for the TV but somehow still annoying???!?! I see a width of 270 cm (9 feet). Where do you keep all your winter clothes, spare bedding, scarves, etc.? How do you get out of the bed? You should have at least 310 cm (10 feet) for a proper wardrobe and easy access to the bed.
ypg schrieb:Most architects pay little attention to bathroom layout. These rooms are likely just meant to show that space has been allocated; how the details will be resolved will probably be clarified later with the plumber.
The bathroom should also be planned properly from the start. The passage between the shower and bathtub looks too narrow. The toilet is centered on the 2-meter line (6.5 feet) – it needs to be shifted. Will you always keep the bathroom window covered with a curtain? I don’t understand these floor-to-ceiling windows in the bathroom... Also, in my opinion, these windows let in less light than a wide window with a sill height, such as in a child’s room.
The 2.00 m (6.5 feet) line leaves little room for window arrangement, especially if shutters are to be installed. However, rooms could be slightly adjusted at the expense of the children’s rooms; 16 sqm (172 sq ft) is quite large – especially considering how little children’s rooms are often used.
ypg schrieb:Only in the entrance area of the ground floor, and that will improve once the carport is installed.
When I imagine the house from the outside, it feels somewhat “soulless” due to the lack of windows. Windows are always the eyes of a house and should contribute to the appearance as well.
Perlenmann schrieb:I think it’s more likely the client’s specification.
An embarrassment for the architect!
Perlenmann schrieb:I don’t see it that way. Elevators often allow up to six people despite smaller floor space; in my opinion, the circulation area on the upper floor is sufficient.
The hallway will be fun when more than two people want to enter: CLUTTER
Perlenmann schrieb:In my opinion, that is the most common mistake in floor plan discussions here on the house building forum. The plans don’t have to please you or me; they need to primarily meet the needs and wishes of the respective original poster.
Seems I’m not the only one who wouldn’t like it.
Best regards, Bauexperte
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