ᐅ Optimization of the 108-Angle Bungalow Design by Town & Country
Created on: 11 Mar 2018 01:24
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Afralea
Hello everyone,
we are planning to build the Winkelbungalow 108 from Town & Country.
I see three main issues:
1.) Bathroom
The bathroom is too small. There is no space for a cabinet, and I would prefer a large shower. Town & Country suggests relocating the bathroom to the guest room. That works perfectly since we don’t need a guest room.
2.) Kitchen window
The kitchen window is too small. Town & Country can install a larger window here. The cost is reasonable – perfect.
3.) Passage between kitchen and living room
We don’t want an open-plan kitchen but would like to have a passage to the dining area. However, the way Town & Country arranged it (a passage without a door) is not very practical since activities in the kitchen disturb people in the living room. Installing a door there doesn’t really make sense either, as it would create three doors close together that would interfere with each other.
Do you have any ideas for designing the passage or the kitchen? Or has anyone built this bungalow and can share tips?
Best regards, Afralea.
we are planning to build the Winkelbungalow 108 from Town & Country.
I see three main issues:
1.) Bathroom
The bathroom is too small. There is no space for a cabinet, and I would prefer a large shower. Town & Country suggests relocating the bathroom to the guest room. That works perfectly since we don’t need a guest room.
2.) Kitchen window
The kitchen window is too small. Town & Country can install a larger window here. The cost is reasonable – perfect.
3.) Passage between kitchen and living room
We don’t want an open-plan kitchen but would like to have a passage to the dining area. However, the way Town & Country arranged it (a passage without a door) is not very practical since activities in the kitchen disturb people in the living room. Installing a door there doesn’t really make sense either, as it would create three doors close together that would interfere with each other.
Do you have any ideas for designing the passage or the kitchen? Or has anyone built this bungalow and can share tips?
Best regards, Afralea.
Please keep in mind that your dimensions are structural dimensions, meaning about 2cm (1 inch) of plaster will be taken off each wall. Looking at the hallway with a structural width of 100cm (40 inches), I wonder if about 96cm (38 inches) of finished width might be a bit tight. Furthermore, the walls all seem very thin to me. How thick are they exactly? 11.5cm (4.5 inches)?
Regardless, your utility room seems much too small, especially since there are two doors planned there as well. Where is the building services equipment supposed to go? And where will the washing machine and dryer be placed?
Regardless, your utility room seems much too small, especially since there are two doors planned there as well. Where is the building services equipment supposed to go? And where will the washing machine and dryer be placed?
Nordlys schrieb:
Cows only accessible through the hallway. Pigs and sheep too *SCNR*
Afralea schrieb:
So, we worked through all the floor plans from Town & Country and Heinz von Heiden. At least to get a clear idea of what’s possible and to gather enough options for implementation, I find that not enough: after all, the "appropriate house size" filter ultimately leaves only a handful of proposals per house type, from bungalows to town villas. You should look for inspiration more broadly, even from other sources – after all, any prefabricated house design can also be built using conventional construction methods.
The more standard the house shape, the fewer critical points it contains. Therefore, I wouldn’t stick mentally so close to the catalog house, as expressed for example in "turning the bathroom into a guest room." Non-load-bearing walls can be relocated quite freely. And with the same building volume, a different design doesn’t cost significantly more or less than a catalog house. At least for about thirty years, since the era of standardized house types has been over. They are all just building proposals – only catalog models (and therefore their cost calculations) are repeated more frequently.
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I was working from a different design that you published earlier.
The second design with the attached garage and the entrance portal no longer recessed is good. Just remove the technical equipment from the utility room, which is actually a bit small, and relocate it to the so-called chamber. This means the boiler, the storage tank, the electrical panel, and the fiber optic modem. That way, there will really be enough space in the utility room for the washing machine, dryer, and a pantry or similar. Karsten
The second design with the attached garage and the entrance portal no longer recessed is good. Just remove the technical equipment from the utility room, which is actually a bit small, and relocate it to the so-called chamber. This means the boiler, the storage tank, the electrical panel, and the fiber optic modem. That way, there will really be enough space in the utility room for the washing machine, dryer, and a pantry or similar. Karsten
Hello everyone,
thank you very much for the many tips!
The dimension 1.00 refers to the width of the shower. The two side arms of the hallway are 1.26 meters (4 feet 2 inches) wide.
The walls are drawn with a thickness of 12 cm (5 inches). According to Town & Country, no load-bearing wall is required inside. This is also clear from the documents they gave me.
I’ve also searched online for other floor plans (Google search "angle bungalow floor plan" → images only…), but with the requirement of 110 m² (1,184 sq ft) it gets quite tight if you want a large children’s room and no open-plan kitchen/living area. It felt like 90% of the suitable houses always have an open-plan kitchen/living area. The rest only had children’s rooms of about 10 to 12 m² (108 to 129 sq ft). That’s an annoying trend, which you even find in 150 m² (1,615 sq ft) houses! Just awful. As a child, I had 20 m² (215 sq ft), which was a dream! And that was not a luxury place, but a newly built apartment!
Nowadays it is very unusual to build a house with only three living rooms (living room, children’s room, bedroom). We think 108 m² (1,160 sq ft) is enough for 3 people. We currently live in 80 m² (860 sq ft) and are very satisfied with that.
I think if we access the kitchen only from the hallway, that solves our first problem.
The second problem remains the bathroom and utility room:
The utility room indeed looks quite small. Town & Country has planned it with only 4.5 m² (48 sq ft). But we once visited a presentation of the shell construction (Town & Country sometimes does this with houses shortly before handover) and were surprised how spacious it felt. Of course, every wall is fitted with various utilities, but our washing machine still fits in comfortably. We don’t have a separate dryer; it’s integrated into our washing machine. This has the advantage that you put the dirty laundry in and program it for 7:00 AM or 5:00 PM. That means you can immediately take the dry laundry out after breakfast or after work. It’s very comfortable and time-saving!
We will store drinks, recyclables, etc. in the garage, so the utility room should be sufficient. In my opinion, it doesn’t make sense to make the entrance narrower now, because then you can’t place anything there anymore.
Combining the storage closet and utility room also doesn’t help, as that would create an L-shaped hallway with a long leg. The T-shaped hallway is better.
If I want to make the utility room significantly larger, I could relocate the shower into the bathroom. But then the bathroom looks small again. Also, I want a shower with as little glass as possible (to reduce cleaning effort).
By the way, the bathroom worries me a lot. The shower should be as large as possible (preferably 1.5 x 1.0 meters (59 x 39 inches) or 1.8 x 1.0 meters (71 x 39 inches)), and I absolutely need space for a cabinet! The showroom bathrooms in all the magazines are not really practical. I don’t want a mirrored cabinet because I always hit my head on it washing my face…
I’ve already tried to plan the bathroom using the Villeroy & Boch planner, but somehow the plan and the 3D image never arrive by email.
Do you know any other bathroom planner? It can cost something, that’s fine!
Best regards, Andreas.
thank you very much for the many tips!
The dimension 1.00 refers to the width of the shower. The two side arms of the hallway are 1.26 meters (4 feet 2 inches) wide.
The walls are drawn with a thickness of 12 cm (5 inches). According to Town & Country, no load-bearing wall is required inside. This is also clear from the documents they gave me.
I’ve also searched online for other floor plans (Google search "angle bungalow floor plan" → images only…), but with the requirement of 110 m² (1,184 sq ft) it gets quite tight if you want a large children’s room and no open-plan kitchen/living area. It felt like 90% of the suitable houses always have an open-plan kitchen/living area. The rest only had children’s rooms of about 10 to 12 m² (108 to 129 sq ft). That’s an annoying trend, which you even find in 150 m² (1,615 sq ft) houses! Just awful. As a child, I had 20 m² (215 sq ft), which was a dream! And that was not a luxury place, but a newly built apartment!
Nowadays it is very unusual to build a house with only three living rooms (living room, children’s room, bedroom). We think 108 m² (1,160 sq ft) is enough for 3 people. We currently live in 80 m² (860 sq ft) and are very satisfied with that.
I think if we access the kitchen only from the hallway, that solves our first problem.
The second problem remains the bathroom and utility room:
The utility room indeed looks quite small. Town & Country has planned it with only 4.5 m² (48 sq ft). But we once visited a presentation of the shell construction (Town & Country sometimes does this with houses shortly before handover) and were surprised how spacious it felt. Of course, every wall is fitted with various utilities, but our washing machine still fits in comfortably. We don’t have a separate dryer; it’s integrated into our washing machine. This has the advantage that you put the dirty laundry in and program it for 7:00 AM or 5:00 PM. That means you can immediately take the dry laundry out after breakfast or after work. It’s very comfortable and time-saving!
We will store drinks, recyclables, etc. in the garage, so the utility room should be sufficient. In my opinion, it doesn’t make sense to make the entrance narrower now, because then you can’t place anything there anymore.
Combining the storage closet and utility room also doesn’t help, as that would create an L-shaped hallway with a long leg. The T-shaped hallway is better.
If I want to make the utility room significantly larger, I could relocate the shower into the bathroom. But then the bathroom looks small again. Also, I want a shower with as little glass as possible (to reduce cleaning effort).
By the way, the bathroom worries me a lot. The shower should be as large as possible (preferably 1.5 x 1.0 meters (59 x 39 inches) or 1.8 x 1.0 meters (71 x 39 inches)), and I absolutely need space for a cabinet! The showroom bathrooms in all the magazines are not really practical. I don’t want a mirrored cabinet because I always hit my head on it washing my face…
I’ve already tried to plan the bathroom using the Villeroy & Boch planner, but somehow the plan and the 3D image never arrive by email.
Do you know any other bathroom planner? It can cost something, that’s fine!
Best regards, Andreas.
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