Hello everyone,
my girlfriend and I are about to start building our house and have been working on the floor plan for some time. We created the drawings ourselves so far, without involving an architect, and we are currently at version 2.6. We have already requested almost all the quotes for this floor plan, and once we decide to build, we plan to consult an architect. Regarding structural engineering, we will probably need a steel beam for the large open-plan living and dining area, but that will be decided by the architect.
Right now, we are mainly interested in getting opinions from others who might see things from a different perspective than we do. It’s possible that we are overlooking some aspects while focusing so much on the floor plans.
What we mainly want is a large area for the kitchen (bottom left) and a spacious living and dining area. On the ground floor, there should be a guest room and a bathroom with a shower. In the basement, a separate apartment will be created, and on the upper floor, we want two children’s rooms (not yet existing) and need a large office. My girlfriend definitely wanted a walk-in closet with direct access to the bathroom. We will probably skip a laundry chute since it would end up in the separate apartment.
We would be very grateful for constructive feedback. In the picture showing the plot, a few meters are still missing in front of the garage.
Thank you very much and best regards,
Martin
PS: There is still a door missing between the garage and the entrance, and the windows are not yet in their final positions (for now, they are included just to count their number for the quotes).




my girlfriend and I are about to start building our house and have been working on the floor plan for some time. We created the drawings ourselves so far, without involving an architect, and we are currently at version 2.6. We have already requested almost all the quotes for this floor plan, and once we decide to build, we plan to consult an architect. Regarding structural engineering, we will probably need a steel beam for the large open-plan living and dining area, but that will be decided by the architect.
Right now, we are mainly interested in getting opinions from others who might see things from a different perspective than we do. It’s possible that we are overlooking some aspects while focusing so much on the floor plans.
What we mainly want is a large area for the kitchen (bottom left) and a spacious living and dining area. On the ground floor, there should be a guest room and a bathroom with a shower. In the basement, a separate apartment will be created, and on the upper floor, we want two children’s rooms (not yet existing) and need a large office. My girlfriend definitely wanted a walk-in closet with direct access to the bathroom. We will probably skip a laundry chute since it would end up in the separate apartment.
We would be very grateful for constructive feedback. In the picture showing the plot, a few meters are still missing in front of the garage.
Thank you very much and best regards,
Martin
PS: There is still a door missing between the garage and the entrance, and the windows are not yet in their final positions (for now, they are included just to count their number for the quotes).
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Martin-8326 Mar 2017 23:15truce schrieb:
Regardless of the nice idea to make good use of large garages: Is it even allowed to store things other than vehicles in the garage?! What does the law say about that...Unfortunately, I don’t know. But basically, I can adapt to that. If I’m not allowed to store wood there, then it will just go behind the garage since the roof is supposed to overhang a bit. The grill or lawn mower shouldn’t be a problem.
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bierkuh8327 Mar 2017 00:12Hi Martin,
you respond very calmly to the comments, I like that.
You just throw in something like this, great.
But now a question, there was quite a bit of text and maybe I missed it... Why a granny flat? It feels a bit "tacked on" down there.
The footprint of the house and garage roughly match. Why not put the garage below and the granny flat as a small extension? That way, you can also position the house better.
Then you place the classic car directly under the living room, make a glass floor, and when you have guests, you pull away the carpet and turn on the lights...
you respond very calmly to the comments, I like that.
You just throw in something like this, great.
But now a question, there was quite a bit of text and maybe I missed it... Why a granny flat? It feels a bit "tacked on" down there.
The footprint of the house and garage roughly match. Why not put the garage below and the granny flat as a small extension? That way, you can also position the house better.
Then you place the classic car directly under the living room, make a glass floor, and when you have guests, you pull away the carpet and turn on the lights...
I had already guessed that the reasons for such a special garage case are personal. And I also assumed, quite secretly, that they are understandable (and even somewhat sympathetic to me).
Architecture, especially the distribution of building volumes, is still perceived as an overall impression. Without explanation, manual, or guide—just spontaneously. And spontaneously, this group of buildings looks like a fairly normal-sized house with an overwhelming, monstrous auxiliary building.
And in my impression, the entire plan continues with an awkward distribution of dimensions and volumes.
A driveway as wide as two double gates but so short that you could only park across it: that would bother me.
What does not bother in practice, however, is that the apartment only has enough space for the everyday cars.
That brings back youthful dreams: in case of a lottery win, when I was in my early twenties, I had firmly planned that the garage should have glass walls towards the entrance and the living room, where the Vector (and the Camaro for everyday use) would be parked like in a showcase.
https://www.instagram.com/11antgmxde/
https://www.linkedin.com/company/bauen-jetzt/
Architecture, especially the distribution of building volumes, is still perceived as an overall impression. Without explanation, manual, or guide—just spontaneously. And spontaneously, this group of buildings looks like a fairly normal-sized house with an overwhelming, monstrous auxiliary building.
And in my impression, the entire plan continues with an awkward distribution of dimensions and volumes.
A driveway as wide as two double gates but so short that you could only park across it: that would bother me.
What does not bother in practice, however, is that the apartment only has enough space for the everyday cars.
bierkuh83 schrieb:
Then you place the vintage car right under the living room, make a glass floor, and when visitors come over, you roll up the carpet and turn on the lights ...
That brings back youthful dreams: in case of a lottery win, when I was in my early twenties, I had firmly planned that the garage should have glass walls towards the entrance and the living room, where the Vector (and the Camaro for everyday use) would be parked like in a showcase.
https://www.instagram.com/11antgmxde/
https://www.linkedin.com/company/bauen-jetzt/
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Martin-8327 Mar 2017 07:33I had also considered the idea of using glass facing the vintage car.
Seriously though, I’ve attached the property plan and an excerpt from the development plan with elevation details. The plot slopes down towards the back left (when standing in front of the house), and the granny flat is almost exclusively on that side. The excerpt from the development plan is oriented north, while the photo of the modelled property is not.
Regarding the garages, we want everything to be accessible on one level—that means you can drive the car into the garage and then enter the house without any steps. There is 8 meters (26 feet) of space in front of the garage lengthwise, so you can easily park there if that’s what you meant, 11ant.
Also, only with a large garage can we reach the maximum 30 kWp photovoltaic system. The plan is to eventually replace one of the two cars with an electric vehicle (probably my partner’s car).
However, I’ve been thinking about the garage again; maybe we could sink the second one behind the house into the ground—I need to check if that’s feasible and practical.
That’s why I’m sharing this here. Obviously, we’re not architects, and we don’t want to build a 120 m² (1,292 sq ft) house anyway. We could probably save a bit of space upstairs, but then we start cutting into the ground floor and the basement with the granny flat. It’s not like we put the floor plan together in an hour and now say, please improve it. It cost us HOURS of work...
Best regards,
Martin
Seriously though, I’ve attached the property plan and an excerpt from the development plan with elevation details. The plot slopes down towards the back left (when standing in front of the house), and the granny flat is almost exclusively on that side. The excerpt from the development plan is oriented north, while the photo of the modelled property is not.
Regarding the garages, we want everything to be accessible on one level—that means you can drive the car into the garage and then enter the house without any steps. There is 8 meters (26 feet) of space in front of the garage lengthwise, so you can easily park there if that’s what you meant, 11ant.
Also, only with a large garage can we reach the maximum 30 kWp photovoltaic system. The plan is to eventually replace one of the two cars with an electric vehicle (probably my partner’s car).
However, I’ve been thinking about the garage again; maybe we could sink the second one behind the house into the ground—I need to check if that’s feasible and practical.
11ant schrieb:
And in my impression, the entire plan continues with an awkward distribution of dimensions and proportions.
That’s why I’m sharing this here. Obviously, we’re not architects, and we don’t want to build a 120 m² (1,292 sq ft) house anyway. We could probably save a bit of space upstairs, but then we start cutting into the ground floor and the basement with the granny flat. It’s not like we put the floor plan together in an hour and now say, please improve it. It cost us HOURS of work...
Best regards,
Martin
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Martin-8327 Mar 2017 08:21Oh, sorry, I forgot to attach it.
The granny flat is intended for our parents or parents-in-law. The reason is simple: nobody gets younger, and we want to create space for family here. I experienced with my father over 10 years ago how life can be suddenly taken away. Since then, my mother has been taking care of him, but she certainly can’t keep doing that for 30 more years. We just want to have a place available that we can use to take care of them more easily when the time comes. If it is not needed, our child might stay there instead.
Until then, the granny flat will probably be rented out.

The granny flat is intended for our parents or parents-in-law. The reason is simple: nobody gets younger, and we want to create space for family here. I experienced with my father over 10 years ago how life can be suddenly taken away. Since then, my mother has been taking care of him, but she certainly can’t keep doing that for 30 more years. We just want to have a place available that we can use to take care of them more easily when the time comes. If it is not needed, our child might stay there instead.
Until then, the granny flat will probably be rented out.
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