We are currently planning our floor layout and would like to get another opinion:
Plot size: 472 sqm (16 * 29.5 meters)
Slope: no (plot is 1 m (3 ft) below street level)
Floor area ratio: 0.4
Gross floor area ratio: 0.8
Building envelope, building line, and boundary: 5 m (16 ft) setback from the street, 16 m (52 ft) wide and 14 m (46 ft) deep
Edge development: no (garage allowed)
Number of parking spaces: 2
Number of floors: 2
Roof type: 20–45 degrees or flat roof
Style: no specifications
Orientation: no preference
Maximum heights/limits: unknown
Other requirements: surface water infiltration
Requirements from the homeowners
“Standard” gable roof without special features
Living area approx. 130 sqm (1,400 sq ft)
Occupants: 2 adults + 1 child (1 more planned)
With basement (firstly, we want one, and secondly, it was said that for a lower level plot it doesn’t make sense not to build one)
Guest room used as a family office and for guests (about once every 2 months)
No open kitchen
No fireplace
House design
Design comes from the planner of the general contractor
The house would be rotated about 20 degrees to the right on the plot
Knee wall height is 75 cm (30 inches)
Roof pitch is 45 degrees
Garage is planned on the left side of the house
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Ground floor:
The pantry is intended as a storage room for vacuum cleaner etc., but we are now leaning towards removing it completely to have more space in the hallway for a coat rack etc., possibly to avoid it becoming too tight(?) and to reserve the guest room for these items instead.
The kitchen should actually be large enough, but should it be made slightly bigger if the pantry is removed?
The guest toilet is small, but I know the size from my parents’ house and find it sufficient.
We would also like to have a window on the right side in the living room, near the dining table.
Upper floor:
We are unsure about the different sizes of the children’s rooms, but think it is still within a reasonable range?
Thanks in advance!
Plot size: 472 sqm (16 * 29.5 meters)
Slope: no (plot is 1 m (3 ft) below street level)
Floor area ratio: 0.4
Gross floor area ratio: 0.8
Building envelope, building line, and boundary: 5 m (16 ft) setback from the street, 16 m (52 ft) wide and 14 m (46 ft) deep
Edge development: no (garage allowed)
Number of parking spaces: 2
Number of floors: 2
Roof type: 20–45 degrees or flat roof
Style: no specifications
Orientation: no preference
Maximum heights/limits: unknown
Other requirements: surface water infiltration
Requirements from the homeowners
“Standard” gable roof without special features
Living area approx. 130 sqm (1,400 sq ft)
Occupants: 2 adults + 1 child (1 more planned)
With basement (firstly, we want one, and secondly, it was said that for a lower level plot it doesn’t make sense not to build one)
Guest room used as a family office and for guests (about once every 2 months)
No open kitchen
No fireplace
House design
Design comes from the planner of the general contractor
The house would be rotated about 20 degrees to the right on the plot
Knee wall height is 75 cm (30 inches)
Roof pitch is 45 degrees
Garage is planned on the left side of the house
-------------
Ground floor:
The pantry is intended as a storage room for vacuum cleaner etc., but we are now leaning towards removing it completely to have more space in the hallway for a coat rack etc., possibly to avoid it becoming too tight(?) and to reserve the guest room for these items instead.
The kitchen should actually be large enough, but should it be made slightly bigger if the pantry is removed?
The guest toilet is small, but I know the size from my parents’ house and find it sufficient.
We would also like to have a window on the right side in the living room, near the dining table.
Upper floor:
We are unsure about the different sizes of the children’s rooms, but think it is still within a reasonable range?
Thanks in advance!
Since the kitchen cabinets are about as deep as the pantry, I assume the pantry is approximately 60-70 cm (24-28 inches) deep. I find this depth too shallow for a walk-in pantry because you can either install shelves or walk inside, but not both effectively. It would be better to have a 60 cm (24 inches) deep built-in cabinet that you can open across its full width. I would place this cabinet behind the main entrance door, slightly move the door to the guest bathroom, and rearrange the toilet and sink accordingly.
Final schrieb:
In my opinion, the pantry has become so small that it no longer has a good proportion, and you don’t really gain that much space from it.Ask yourselves what will actually be stored in this pantry now.
When building with a basement, you generally accept the stairs leading down to the beverage crates as well as to the washing machine. That’s the downside of basement construction. Yellow bags (recycling bags) also find their place there, if not in the garage.
Potatoes and preserved food are also stored in the basement. What’s left are a bag of flour or sugar, a few kilograms of pasta supply... that definitely fits in a kitchen cabinet. If that is missing, then the sloped wall in the kitchen is just right—there’s potential there for a 60cm (24 inches), or even 80cm (31 inches), cabinet 🙂
Hmm ... I see one more point:
The dining table is positioned quite far to the right side of the plan. This makes it difficult to access the sideboard planned there. However, if the dining table is moved further to the left side of the plan, you end up with a rather complicated route from the kitchen to the terrace (for summer, barbecues, etc.) and you might even be unable to fully open the terrace door.
The dining table is positioned quite far to the right side of the plan. This makes it difficult to access the sideboard planned there. However, if the dining table is moved further to the left side of the plan, you end up with a rather complicated route from the kitchen to the terrace (for summer, barbecues, etc.) and you might even be unable to fully open the terrace door.
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Bauexperte15 Sep 2015 13:56Final schrieb:
The issue with the access from the kitchen is correct; perhaps the right window could be moved slightly to the left. You mentioned that the design comes from the planner of a provider. If I’m not mistaken, it’s from He**a, where the salespeople are the ones planning for their customers.
What I’m trying to say is – if you happen to be dealing with a selling architect, it might be quite challenging to come up with innovative ideas for house design. Anyone can make things worse while trying to improve; myself included 😕
Have you ever considered having an architect handle the initial design and then finding the right building partner afterward? It costs a bit more in the end, no doubt. BUT – you will likely be much happier living in your new home at the end of the day 😉
Best regards, Bauexperte
@Bauexperte:
Well spotted, probably recognized mainly by the green color 😉?
We probably approached this the wrong way and have "lost" the last 1.2 weeks (about 8 days). The problem is that the land reservation is about to expire soon, and extending the reservation is not possible because several other interested parties are still on the waiting list.
Well spotted, probably recognized mainly by the green color 😉?
We probably approached this the wrong way and have "lost" the last 1.2 weeks (about 8 days). The problem is that the land reservation is about to expire soon, and extending the reservation is not possible because several other interested parties are still on the waiting list.
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