ᐅ Opinion / Floor Plan / Single-Family House 150 sqm / Gable Roof / 50 cm Knee Wall / 25° Roof Pitch
Created on: 28 Dec 2013 15:17
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hetjam9
Hello, we are now ready to build with our house provider (a construction company from our region / Cloppenburg).
The plan includes a gable roof with two small bay windows (not yet shown in the ground floor layout) and a knee wall height of 150 cm (59 inches) with a roof pitch of 25 degrees, which meets the requirements for a single-story construction in Lower Saxony.
As special features, we have KfW 70 with F#bh, controlled residential ventilation with heat recovery, and smaller requests like colored windows, a 3 m (10 feet) sliding door in the dining area (not yet shown), and for example, a larger Velux window in the upper floor hallway.
The heating system (gas condensing boiler) will be relocated to the utility room on the upper floor, which will still be large enough for us since it will only be used for vacuum cleaner, mop, etc. storage.
The walk-in closet should be a separate room because we both work in shifts and get up at different times.
We don’t really need an office; it will more likely be used for guests and as storage space for folders and such.
So… that’s our current starting point. The plot faces south, so the entire living area is oriented in that direction.
We would appreciate any feedback or if you have any suggestions or ideas for changes… maybe we have overlooked something…
Thank you very much!
The plan includes a gable roof with two small bay windows (not yet shown in the ground floor layout) and a knee wall height of 150 cm (59 inches) with a roof pitch of 25 degrees, which meets the requirements for a single-story construction in Lower Saxony.
As special features, we have KfW 70 with F#bh, controlled residential ventilation with heat recovery, and smaller requests like colored windows, a 3 m (10 feet) sliding door in the dining area (not yet shown), and for example, a larger Velux window in the upper floor hallway.
The heating system (gas condensing boiler) will be relocated to the utility room on the upper floor, which will still be large enough for us since it will only be used for vacuum cleaner, mop, etc. storage.
The walk-in closet should be a separate room because we both work in shifts and get up at different times.
We don’t really need an office; it will more likely be used for guests and as storage space for folders and such.
So… that’s our current starting point. The plot faces south, so the entire living area is oriented in that direction.
We would appreciate any feedback or if you have any suggestions or ideas for changes… maybe we have overlooked something…
Thank you very much!
Knee wall minus screed plus rafter bearer (is that the correct term?)... about 10 cm (4 inches) less overall than the shell construction dimensions.
I agree with Jaydee’s opinions—especially the table-to-table setup, which would bother me, even visually. The room works well with a nice island, whether for cooking, as a bar, or for working.
Our freezer room also has a technical corner solution—without a door or wall. Next to it are space for beverage crates and the trash. A second door there would just get in the way.
I agree with Jaydee’s opinions—especially the table-to-table setup, which would bother me, even visually. The room works well with a nice island, whether for cooking, as a bar, or for working.
Our freezer room also has a technical corner solution—without a door or wall. Next to it are space for beverage crates and the trash. A second door there would just get in the way.
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Bauexperte11 Mar 2014 10:53Hello,
This statement is generally not correct. It largely depends on how the municipality or city defines the knee wall.
If they mean the intersection of the roof covering, you are right—if the outer, visible part is considered the knee wall dimension, the final interior knee wall height actually increases by the angle of the foot purlin resting on the gable sill, minus the thickness of drywall and plaster.
Regards, Bauexperte
Jaydee schrieb:
Oh, one more thing I forgot. Remember that the knee wall (drempel) has a rough construction dimension of 1.65 m (5 ft 5 in). I was a bit conservative with ours, too, as our 1.80 m (5 ft 11 in) knee wall ended up as about 1.70 m (5 ft 7 in) after the screed and floor covering.
This statement is generally not correct. It largely depends on how the municipality or city defines the knee wall.
If they mean the intersection of the roof covering, you are right—if the outer, visible part is considered the knee wall dimension, the final interior knee wall height actually increases by the angle of the foot purlin resting on the gable sill, minus the thickness of drywall and plaster.
Regards, Bauexperte
In our case, it had nothing to do with the municipality. Our builder planned a knee wall of 1.80 m (5 ft 11 in), but it was only 1.80 m (5 ft 11 in) at the rough construction stage.
For our builder, it was clear that this was a rough construction measurement, but it wasn’t for us. This is a typical case of talking past each other. I just wanted to clarify for the original poster that their 1.65 m (5 ft 5 in) is not the 1.65 m (5 ft 5 in) they think it is when it comes to the "room feel."
For our builder, it was clear that this was a rough construction measurement, but it wasn’t for us. This is a typical case of talking past each other. I just wanted to clarify for the original poster that their 1.65 m (5 ft 5 in) is not the 1.65 m (5 ft 5 in) they think it is when it comes to the "room feel."
Hey,
thank you very much for all the feedback, I really appreciate it.
The kitchen is already planned with a cooking island, and we don’t want the table there either. A large dining table where everything takes place will be enough for us. Unfortunately, this is incorrectly shown in the floor plan.
We want to use the walk-in closet on the upper floor as part of the bedroom, integrated with a sliding door. We both work in shifts and really like (our current apartment has the same setup) having this separation ... so it can’t be done differently. We plan to place the washing machine and dryer in the utility room on the upper floor, an idea I picked up here on the forum!
Regarding the technical room, we will give it some thought. I think you are right, and I’ll save the cost of the door.
Unfortunately, the staircase to the upper floor cannot be positioned differently. It’s not ideal, but we can live with it. On the other hand, we find the hallway upstairs quite nice and a bit different.
Do you have any ideas regarding the bathroom on the upper floor? It should be large enough, right? Could something be arranged differently? Any other ideas?
Looking forward to your suggestions!!!
thank you very much for all the feedback, I really appreciate it.
The kitchen is already planned with a cooking island, and we don’t want the table there either. A large dining table where everything takes place will be enough for us. Unfortunately, this is incorrectly shown in the floor plan.
We want to use the walk-in closet on the upper floor as part of the bedroom, integrated with a sliding door. We both work in shifts and really like (our current apartment has the same setup) having this separation ... so it can’t be done differently. We plan to place the washing machine and dryer in the utility room on the upper floor, an idea I picked up here on the forum!
Regarding the technical room, we will give it some thought. I think you are right, and I’ll save the cost of the door.
Unfortunately, the staircase to the upper floor cannot be positioned differently. It’s not ideal, but we can live with it. On the other hand, we find the hallway upstairs quite nice and a bit different.
Do you have any ideas regarding the bathroom on the upper floor? It should be large enough, right? Could something be arranged differently? Any other ideas?
Looking forward to your suggestions!!!
Jaydee schrieb:
For us, it had nothing to do with the local authority. Our building designer planned a knee wall height of 1.80 m (5 ft 11 in), but that measurement only applied during the shell construction phase.
For our building designer, it was clear that this was a rough structural measurement, but for us it wasn’t. We basically talked past each other. I just wanted to make clear to the original poster that his 1.65 m (5 ft 5 in) for the "sense of space" isn’t actually the full 1.65 m he thinks it is. According to the home builder, the measurement from the finished floor surface will be about 3–4 cm (1–1.5 inches) less than the 165 cm (5 ft 5 in) ... we’re curious to see how it turns out.
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