Hello,
we need to decide soon on the number of network outlets required throughout the house.
Basically, we agree on where to place outlets (living room, office, children's rooms, bedroom...) for connecting stationary devices.
However, I am a bit unsure about what exactly needs to be planned to ensure good Wi-Fi coverage on both floors.
What I find online about this topic is beyond my current understanding.
Would it be possible to simply install one network outlet centrally on each floor and connect a device there to extend the signal? What kind of device would that be?
(I have often read about access points.)
Looking forward to some beginner-friendly advice. Thank you very much.
we need to decide soon on the number of network outlets required throughout the house.
Basically, we agree on where to place outlets (living room, office, children's rooms, bedroom...) for connecting stationary devices.
However, I am a bit unsure about what exactly needs to be planned to ensure good Wi-Fi coverage on both floors.
What I find online about this topic is beyond my current understanding.
Would it be possible to simply install one network outlet centrally on each floor and connect a device there to extend the signal? What kind of device would that be?
(I have often read about access points.)
Looking forward to some beginner-friendly advice. Thank you very much.
Scout schrieb:
For the empty conduits, it’s best to install the cables right away, at least on the longest runs. CAT7, especially in duplex form, is really difficult to pull through multiple floors and bends. So running it from the basement to the attic with four bends can easily fail, and then you end up with an empty outlet. A distribution box halfway along the route can help solve the problem, of course. Or at least have the electrician install the cables where you really need them (for example in the office) and where the cable runs are long.Since the house is from the developer, it will be difficult to arrange this in advance. The only option here is a single outlet for 200€ and a double outlet for 400€, which I honestly find quite overpriced... I don’t know yet who the electrician will be later, but I would try to have the cables I provide installed directly...
Will the ground floor and first floor ceiling outlets be sufficient if the attic is likely going to be two children’s bedrooms later?
ti-mar90 schrieb:
Since the house is coming from the builder, it will be difficult to arrange this in advance. The only options here are single-gang boxes for 200€ each and double-gang boxes for 400€ each. Honestly, I find that quite excessive... I don’t know yet who the electrician will be later, but I would try to have the cables I provide installed directly by them.
Is it enough to have wiring at the ceiling in the ground floor and upper floor if the two children’s rooms are expected to be in the attic later? Ask the electrician what it would cost from their side...
Yes, two access points are enough; probably even one would suffice, depending on how much steel is in the ceilings.
I would place the second one under the roof, as it will have better coverage in the garden there, and for the upper floor it doesn’t really matter.
CAT7 cable through conduit is more of a theoretical approach; they should definitely install it directly. In my opinion, you can even skip the conduit, since no one will ever pull cables through it again.
Don’t run just one duplex cable; run two to separate dual outlets.
I would also install a dual outlet in the kitchen, even if it seems unnecessary at first.
For PoE, go ahead and use the supplied injector. Switches with built-in PoE capability are significantly more expensive, and there is no disadvantage unless you plan to use other PoE-capable devices (such as security cameras).
I would place the second one under the roof, as it will have better coverage in the garden there, and for the upper floor it doesn’t really matter.
CAT7 cable through conduit is more of a theoretical approach; they should definitely install it directly. In my opinion, you can even skip the conduit, since no one will ever pull cables through it again.
Don’t run just one duplex cable; run two to separate dual outlets.
I would also install a dual outlet in the kitchen, even if it seems unnecessary at first.
For PoE, go ahead and use the supplied injector. Switches with built-in PoE capability are significantly more expensive, and there is no disadvantage unless you plan to use other PoE-capable devices (such as security cameras).
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Strahleman4 Sep 2019 13:30Wow! 400 euros for a double LAN socket?! Then I definitely don’t want to know how much the extra costs for electric roller shutters and similar items were or would have been.
Regarding the Ubiquiti access point: I installed a NanoHD at my parents’ place, and it barely covers two floors (including a concrete ceiling) with about 130 m² (1400 sq ft) of coverage. In some corners, however, the Wi-Fi is quite weak. I would therefore play it safe and plan for two access points.
A PoE injector is included with the Ubiquiti access point. Why would you switch to an expensive PoE switch in a normal household? I wouldn’t do that; it’s not worth spending the extra money. Especially since Ubiquiti includes everything needed to get started even with a simple switch.
Regarding the Ubiquiti access point: I installed a NanoHD at my parents’ place, and it barely covers two floors (including a concrete ceiling) with about 130 m² (1400 sq ft) of coverage. In some corners, however, the Wi-Fi is quite weak. I would therefore play it safe and plan for two access points.
A PoE injector is included with the Ubiquiti access point. Why would you switch to an expensive PoE switch in a normal household? I wouldn’t do that; it’s not worth spending the extra money. Especially since Ubiquiti includes everything needed to get started even with a simple switch.
But please, no APlite. Use NanoHD, or if you prefer, the Pro version. For enthusiasts, the standard HD is also an option.
There are in-wall variants available, which include LAN ports and Wi-Fi. Wherever you need fast (5 GHz) Wi-Fi, you should have a hotspot—so not in the hallway but for example in the living room or office.
The slower (2.4 GHz) Wi-Fi has a longer range and penetrates walls better.
The more hotspots you have, the more you need to manage the power output and channels.
It’s better to have an access point in the basement as well. This way, you can administer everything on one system and also create multiple Wi-Fi networks at once.
Mount the devices on the ceiling, or if necessary, on the wall. A small server cabinet in the basement or utility room is recommended.
Use a UniFi switch as well, so you have one system to manage everything...
There are in-wall variants available, which include LAN ports and Wi-Fi. Wherever you need fast (5 GHz) Wi-Fi, you should have a hotspot—so not in the hallway but for example in the living room or office.
The slower (2.4 GHz) Wi-Fi has a longer range and penetrates walls better.
The more hotspots you have, the more you need to manage the power output and channels.
It’s better to have an access point in the basement as well. This way, you can administer everything on one system and also create multiple Wi-Fi networks at once.
Mount the devices on the ceiling, or if necessary, on the wall. A small server cabinet in the basement or utility room is recommended.
Use a UniFi switch as well, so you have one system to manage everything...
As I said, we can’t assess or coordinate with the electrician yet because it’s still unknown. That’s why I was considering using empty conduit pipes. Is it really that difficult? I had imagined it would be easier since they even come with a pull wire. It sounded so simple. But yes, as soon as we know the electrician, I will try to talk to them and have it done directly.
Electric roller shutters only 350 euros... a simple socket 80 euros. I’m not an electrician, but the pricing structure seems very unpredictable to me.
Strahleman schrieb:
Wow! 400 euros for a double LAN socket?! Then I don’t want to know what the additional costs for electric roller shutters and so on were/would be.
Electric roller shutters only 350 euros... a simple socket 80 euros. I’m not an electrician, but the pricing structure seems very unpredictable to me.
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