ᐅ Non-woven wallpaper on the walls – which type to choose?

Created on: 29 Feb 2024 21:31
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Gerddieter
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Gerddieter
29 Feb 2024 21:31
Hello everyone,

I have a question about wall finishing that I’m unclear about. I agreed with the painters on a Q3 level finish, a fleece, and a silicate paint. They haven’t started yet, but they have already delivered several rolls of glass fleece to the construction site.

I wasn’t expecting that; I thought fleece was made from cellulose or similar, so I’m a bit surprised. I will ask them about it, but I wanted to get your input first. Is this standard practice? What is the professional view on this?

Thanks, regards
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nordanney
1 Mar 2024 09:13
Gerddieter schrieb:

I didn’t expect that; I thought fleece was made of cellulose, etc., and I’m a bit surprised. I will ask for clarification but wanted to ask you for information— is this the standard? What is the professional standpoint on this?

Unfortunately, you are asking the wrong questions.
What was agreed upon in the contract? Because fleece can mean many different things — painter’s fleece, fiberglass fleece, jointing fleece.
And how is the fleece supposed to be applied? On the finished Q3 wall, or embedded in the plaster, then sanded and painted?

All the options I mentioned are possible and professionally acceptable, even standard. The real question is what you commissioned. Saying “put fleece on the wall” basically leaves all options open for the contractor. A clear instruction in the contract would be something like: “Plaster the wall, apply joint compound to Q3 level, sand, then adhere painter’s fleece weighing 220g/m² (6.5 oz/yd²) and paint with white silicate paint Sto Schlagmichtot.”
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Gerddieter
1 Mar 2024 09:43
Thank you, Nordanney – yes, I’ve just checked it now...
Well, I’m more of a lay expert, and after asking around and searching forums, I decided on fleece without realizing there are so many different types.

The painter plans to fill it, sand it, apply filler twice more, and then use mineral/silicate paint from Keim. He says this method keeps the surface most breathable since we have lime plaster.

I had only thought of the classic painter’s fleece, applied with adhesive to the smooth wall and then painted over –
but I find the version offered now more elegant (just my lay opinion).

Gerddieter
Tolentino1 Mar 2024 09:56
Then it’s probably more like a mesh, right? Otherwise, I would say that fiberglass is not vapor permeable... But yes, I wouldn’t put painter’s fleece over lime plaster either...
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Gerddieter
1 Mar 2024 10:50
Tolentino schrieb:

Then it’s probably more like a mesh, right? Otherwise, I would say that fiberglass isn’t vapor-permeable…
But yes, with lime plaster I also wouldn’t stick paintable fleece over it…
Sort of — it’s not the typical mesh with small squares but rather a fleece made of irregular mineral fibers. I’ve seen it; it’s very thin, almost transparent. Apparently, you can paint it directly, but that’s not really my preference.

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nordanney
1 Mar 2024 11:52
Gerddieter schrieb:

I find the version now being offered to be more elegant (just a layperson’s opinion).
So, a fiberglass mesh tape. Personally, I think it’s the best solution. Look forward to a great wall that only needs to be painted and still won’t show the usual cracks.