New housing developments are like a box of chocolates – you never know what you’re going to get. 😉
After a month here at the location, we’re a bit annoyed by the noise level. It’s nothing to really complain about. It’s Saturday noon, and if the neighbor wants to play moderately loud music in the garden, that’s probably within their rights. Unfortunately, it’s just 3 meters (10 feet) in a straight line from our office and children’s room, wakes my sleeping baby, and personally really gets on my nerves. You can’t recognize the songs, but you hear thumping bass lines through the wall/windows for hours. I’m quite sensitive to that, and it’s annoying me.
On another property, someone has moved in who so far seems to combine the intelligence of a houseplant with the humor of a certain comedian. They often blast poor punk music late into the night and then drunkenly shout nonsense across the street when you want to let the cat out. Hooray. 🙄
We had actually hoped that people like that wouldn’t have the money for a house. Either way, these were just first impressions, maybe it will improve.
But regarding the music noise during the day, we would like to do something about it. I don’t want to approach the neighbors about it—they are very nice and I don’t believe they’re doing anything wrong. These are just sounds you have to expect, and the fact that they bother me is my problem.
Do you have any ideas on the best way to block sound?
We already agreed with them and planted a hedge along the boundary. If we now put up a wall or fence on our side of the property, would that be a problem, or can we just do it? What offers the best noise protection, especially against bass? Is there anything we can do to the house itself to prevent the sound from coming inside?
After a month here at the location, we’re a bit annoyed by the noise level. It’s nothing to really complain about. It’s Saturday noon, and if the neighbor wants to play moderately loud music in the garden, that’s probably within their rights. Unfortunately, it’s just 3 meters (10 feet) in a straight line from our office and children’s room, wakes my sleeping baby, and personally really gets on my nerves. You can’t recognize the songs, but you hear thumping bass lines through the wall/windows for hours. I’m quite sensitive to that, and it’s annoying me.
On another property, someone has moved in who so far seems to combine the intelligence of a houseplant with the humor of a certain comedian. They often blast poor punk music late into the night and then drunkenly shout nonsense across the street when you want to let the cat out. Hooray. 🙄
We had actually hoped that people like that wouldn’t have the money for a house. Either way, these were just first impressions, maybe it will improve.
But regarding the music noise during the day, we would like to do something about it. I don’t want to approach the neighbors about it—they are very nice and I don’t believe they’re doing anything wrong. These are just sounds you have to expect, and the fact that they bother me is my problem.
Do you have any ideas on the best way to block sound?
We already agreed with them and planted a hedge along the boundary. If we now put up a wall or fence on our side of the property, would that be a problem, or can we just do it? What offers the best noise protection, especially against bass? Is there anything we can do to the house itself to prevent the sound from coming inside?
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Stefan0018 Nov 2020 19:22fach1werk schrieb:
Low-frequency sounds do not carry as far as high-frequency sounds [...] That is not correct. Low frequencies are less attenuated in air than high frequencies.
fach1werk schrieb:
[...] and sound waves are relatively easily blocked by obstacles. Roughly speaking, where you cannot see, significantly less sound will reach you compared to where the sound originates. However, where air can pass through, sound will also pass through. To block low-frequency sounds in this case, you need mass, i.e., a wall. Heavy and as tall as a person. That is partially correct. Low frequencies do not diffract around obstacles as easily as high frequencies. However, as a rough rule of thumb, the obstacle has to be at least as large as the wavelength to act as a barrier (for 100 Hz, that is slightly over 3 m (10 feet)). Additionally, bass frequencies tend to travel directly through the obstacle itself, so direct airborne sound is often not the main issue.
In the end, it doesn’t really matter.
The question was how to deal with “normal” noise levels from neighbors when you find it problematic.
Right?
No matter how considerate you are, the humming of the robotic lawn mower and the pump of the hot tub will still be heard next door.
The question was how to deal with “normal” noise levels from neighbors when you find it problematic.
Right?
No matter how considerate you are, the humming of the robotic lawn mower and the pump of the hot tub will still be heard next door.
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fach1werk8 Nov 2020 19:35Haha... thanks, Stefan!
This just shows where knowledge about noise generation from spinning washing machines and whirlpool pumps reaches its limits.
Regarding high and low frequencies, the answer referred not only to the behavior of sound waves but also to how humans perceive them. I expressed it too simply. Thanks for clarifying!
Best regards
Gabriele
This just shows where knowledge about noise generation from spinning washing machines and whirlpool pumps reaches its limits.
Regarding high and low frequencies, the answer referred not only to the behavior of sound waves but also to how humans perceive them. I expressed it too simply. Thanks for clarifying!
Best regards
Gabriele
Pierre schrieb:
Sorry, before doing something like that, I would rather try having a conversation first. I already suggested that, as did several others before me, and only consider that "nonsense" as a Plan B (because for some people Plan A works significantly better, while for others Plan B is effective). For a conversation to succeed, the recipient needs to have a brain between their ears (which unfortunately does not seem to be standard nowadays).
Pierre schrieb:
When I get annoyed by noises in our current rental apartment, I sometimes put on my noise-canceling headphones. I don’t think they come in children’s sizes ;-) but with them, you can at least narrow down whether you are hearing sound or feeling vibrations.
KingJulien schrieb:
In our case, some newcomers even take legal action against church bells, cowbells, farm odors, etc. If that’s not an argument in favor of the locals’ model ;-).
Smialbuddler schrieb:
For me, it’s a particular neighbor who has already caused some stress over other issues (and whose hobby, to my dismay, is various gas-powered garden tools...). There’s always some idiot mowing somewhere [Reinhard Mey]
Pinkiponk schrieb:
Is it possible to position a radio so that the bass “flows/radiates” in a desired direction, meaning towards one’s own house and not towards the thread starter’s house? Bass frequencies spread spherically, so you can’t direct them like that, but you can significantly reduce the amount of higher-frequency sounds that also carry towards the thread starter — which might unfortunately make her notice the low-frequency rumble even more :-(
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Nida35a schrieb:
I’m glad we built with noise insulation in mind, not just U-values.
As a result, the house is soundproof, and the best part is,
Berlin-Tegel airport closed today at 3 pm, so no more planes.
Anyone building in a new development should focus more on soundproofing—it’s more annoying over time than the last bit of savings on heating costs. What exactly measures did you take?
Solid Poroton-filled, 42cm (16.5 inches),
triple glazing with RC2 security rating and 45dB sound insulation,
no roof windows,
extensive insulation in the roof, covered with double 15mm (0.6 inches) drywall.
These were effective measures for us in terms of price/performance.
triple glazing with RC2 security rating and 45dB sound insulation,
no roof windows,
extensive insulation in the roof, covered with double 15mm (0.6 inches) drywall.
These were effective measures for us in terms of price/performance.