ᐅ No building permit or planning permission for parking space due to climate protection?
Created on: 1 Sep 2023 20:04
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BauPaar
Hello,
As part of an informal preliminary inquiry with the city administration (in Lower Saxony, if relevant), it was argued that the city aims to help its citizens achieve a mobility transition away from private motorized transport. Therefore, they do not recommend building a parking space, as it also has negative impacts on the local microclimate, soil functions, and drainage.
What about a caravan or motorhome—would it no longer be allowed to be parked on one’s own property?
A water-permeable surface is definitely planned, so more permeable than fully sealed; would that count as an argument?
What if a wallbox is installed exactly there (and actually used), not directly in front of the garage to avoid constant repositioning—wouldn’t that be an argument? The public transport in this city is by no means good enough to completely forgo a vehicle. We’re not talking about being “in the middle of Barmbek,” but rather about a roughly 10-minute walk to a bus that runs infrequently.
On the other hand, a certain number of parking spaces per residential unit are required, right? Okay, there is no development plan here, but there certainly must be a statewide regulation for regulated Germany (Lower Saxony)?
Since 4 minutes have now passed: true, §47 of the Lower Saxony Building Code, but unfortunately without specific numbers like “1.5 parking spaces per residential unit,” as seen elsewhere.
But surely an actively used garage can hardly be blocked by a (commercial van) motorhome, the second small parking space can’t even be used by, for example, a Passat estate (too tight), and blocking a window certainly cannot be tolerated? Ah, I see, time to draw another sketch...
As part of an informal preliminary inquiry with the city administration (in Lower Saxony, if relevant), it was argued that the city aims to help its citizens achieve a mobility transition away from private motorized transport. Therefore, they do not recommend building a parking space, as it also has negative impacts on the local microclimate, soil functions, and drainage.
What about a caravan or motorhome—would it no longer be allowed to be parked on one’s own property?
A water-permeable surface is definitely planned, so more permeable than fully sealed; would that count as an argument?
What if a wallbox is installed exactly there (and actually used), not directly in front of the garage to avoid constant repositioning—wouldn’t that be an argument? The public transport in this city is by no means good enough to completely forgo a vehicle. We’re not talking about being “in the middle of Barmbek,” but rather about a roughly 10-minute walk to a bus that runs infrequently.
On the other hand, a certain number of parking spaces per residential unit are required, right? Okay, there is no development plan here, but there certainly must be a statewide regulation for regulated Germany (Lower Saxony)?
Since 4 minutes have now passed: true, §47 of the Lower Saxony Building Code, but unfortunately without specific numbers like “1.5 parking spaces per residential unit,” as seen elsewhere.
But surely an actively used garage can hardly be blocked by a (commercial van) motorhome, the second small parking space can’t even be used by, for example, a Passat estate (too tight), and blocking a window certainly cannot be tolerated? Ah, I see, time to draw another sketch...
BauPaar schrieb:
there was an argument made, I see it more as general advice.
BauPaar schrieb:
or is it no longer allowed to park that on your own property? Why shouldn’t it be allowed?
BauPaar schrieb:
But you hardly need to block a (transport van) motorhome with a (used) garage, right? To be honest, that’s your personal concern regarding which vehicles you use with the garage.
BauPaar schrieb:
Would a grass paver with gravel underneath require approval (or more precisely: could it be prohibited)? Why would it? There is a distinction between parking space, yard, driveway, and accessory area...
BauPaar schrieb:
So, I’ve drawn it and now I’m writing the minimum word count... Ah, let there be light in the dark!
What you are asking about is a second driveway from the access road.
I don’t think I know any property where that has officially been approved.
Better create an accessory area with gravel or something similar and park your prized vehicle there. If you can’t get up the curb, just lay down a board.
Could it be that you didn’t sleep well last night?
Nida35a schrieb:
If you drive in there and don’t block the windows,
as I said, nobody can complain about 4 grass pavers There are no windows on the side, unlike the 'small parking space', which has a window in front...ypg schrieb:
why shouldn’t you? Because probably no driveway permit will be granted?So no explicit parking space is even needed? Oh man...
Looking at it objectively: It’s your personal matter which vehicles you use for the garage.Yes, it just has to *fit*. If I can’t get onto the ‘small parking space’ (which doesn’t meet the standards either *whistle* but was built as necessary), I hardly have to block my own garage, do I?Why shouldn’t you? There is a distinction between parking space, yard, driveway, and side area…Oh dear... So what would you call the area in front of the garage then? Two cars can’t fit side by side there...What you requested is a second driveway from the access road.Well, my wording was ‘parking space’, but yes, including a second driveway (that’s the only way here)I don’t think I know a property where that was officially approved.Oh, many have it, especially around here...Just create a side area with gravel or similar and park your precious vehicle there. If you can’t get the curb, just lay down a board.Well, it’s quite obvious when you change the fence and build an obvious ‘driveway’, even if you try to disguise it 😉Could it be that you slept poorly last night?Oh yes, way too loud here... How do you know? 😉W
WilderSueden1 Sep 2023 22:08Is the problem the high curb? There are small ramps available. You place one, drive over it, and then remove it again. In dry weather, you can also drive over a grassy area without leaving ruts. Otherwise, gravel the driving lanes.
BauPaar schrieb:
Well, it’s pretty obvious when you change the fence and build an apparent ‘driveway,’ even if you try to disguise it well 😉 Who says you need a fence at the front by the street? Apparently, there is no zoning plan. If you want A, then B might have to give way…
WilderSueden schrieb:
Is the problem the high kerb? No, it’s the fence now.
Your problem is consistent: you can’t reconcile laws and regulations with what you need or think you need. Instead of thinking objectively, you respond sarcastically. You don’t really want to understand advice or guidance, because you’re not thinking rationally. If you prefer to get upset or dismiss things, fine… but creating a new thread on the same topic every two hours won’t help you move forward.
BauPaar schrieb:
I hardly have to block my own garage, do I? What you must do, no one here tells you.
BauPaar schrieb:
Oh dear... And what would you call the space in front of the garage then? Two cars can’t fit side by side there... Then just don’t do it!
WilderSueden schrieb:
In dry weatherexactly 🙂Word word word word
ypg schrieb:
Instead of thinking objectively, you’re joking around sarcastically.
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No one here will tell you what you must do
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Then just leave it be!thank you.Similar topics