ᐅ New construction of a single-family house, approximately 220 sqm, second design draft of an urban villa
Created on: 27 Sep 2020 14:09
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idasb79
Hello everyone,
Since the first draft was heavily criticized here, I am trying again with a second draft featuring a slightly different layout but otherwise the same requirements. The plan is still to live in the house for about 15 to 20 years and then sell it.
So, let's go!
Development Plan / Restrictions
Plot size: 620 m² (6672 sq ft)
Site occupancy index: 0.4
Floor area ratio: 0.8
Building envelope, building line, and boundary: 12 m x 14 m (39 ft x 46 ft)
Number of parking spaces: 1 + 1 garage
Number of stories: 2
Roof type: pitched roofs
Orientation: north
Additional requirements: drainage ditch in front of the building envelope on the south side, 3 m (10 ft) wide, with a planned crossing 4 m (13 ft) wide
Client Requirements
Style, roof form, building type: urban villa
Basement, number of floors: no basement, 2 full floors
Number of occupants, ages: 4 people, ages 40, 41, 14, 14
Annual overnight guests: none
Conservative or modern construction: modern
Open kitchen, kitchen island: kitchen island, semi-open with sliding door to the dining area
Number of dining seats: 8
Fireplace: yes, as a divider between living and dining areas
Music/sound system wall: no
Balcony, roof terrace: yes
Garage, carport: yes
Vegetable garden, greenhouse: no
Additional wishes / special features / daily routine, including reasons why some features are preferred or avoided
House Design
Who designed the plan:
- Do-it-Yourself
What do you like especially? Why?
Large living area and master bedroom with walk-in closet and bathroom
Spacious kitchen
What don’t you like? Why?
Price estimate according to architect/planner:
No estimate yet as they have not been contacted so far
Personal budget limit for the house, including equipment:
No idea yet
Preferred heating technology:
No preference, but if the setup with subsidies etc. works out, a geothermal heat pump could be used again. Otherwise, it should be good value for money.
Since the first draft was heavily criticized here, I am trying again with a second draft featuring a slightly different layout but otherwise the same requirements. The plan is still to live in the house for about 15 to 20 years and then sell it.
So, let's go!
Development Plan / Restrictions
Plot size: 620 m² (6672 sq ft)
Site occupancy index: 0.4
Floor area ratio: 0.8
Building envelope, building line, and boundary: 12 m x 14 m (39 ft x 46 ft)
Number of parking spaces: 1 + 1 garage
Number of stories: 2
Roof type: pitched roofs
Orientation: north
Additional requirements: drainage ditch in front of the building envelope on the south side, 3 m (10 ft) wide, with a planned crossing 4 m (13 ft) wide
Client Requirements
Style, roof form, building type: urban villa
Basement, number of floors: no basement, 2 full floors
Number of occupants, ages: 4 people, ages 40, 41, 14, 14
Annual overnight guests: none
Conservative or modern construction: modern
Open kitchen, kitchen island: kitchen island, semi-open with sliding door to the dining area
Number of dining seats: 8
Fireplace: yes, as a divider between living and dining areas
Music/sound system wall: no
Balcony, roof terrace: yes
Garage, carport: yes
Vegetable garden, greenhouse: no
Additional wishes / special features / daily routine, including reasons why some features are preferred or avoided
House Design
Who designed the plan:
- Do-it-Yourself
What do you like especially? Why?
Large living area and master bedroom with walk-in closet and bathroom
Spacious kitchen
What don’t you like? Why?
Price estimate according to architect/planner:
No estimate yet as they have not been contacted so far
Personal budget limit for the house, including equipment:
No idea yet
Preferred heating technology:
No preference, but if the setup with subsidies etc. works out, a geothermal heat pump could be used again. Otherwise, it should be good value for money.
pagoni2020 schrieb:
I actually think it hardly matters, and the kids can be happy either way or not. Of course, it doesn’t really matter! My parents had the option, and I thought it was great. My sister did too. I wouldn’t have turned out differently with the smaller room.
But I just think that with 220sqm (2,368 sq ft) there’s more space that can be allocated for the kids. The upstairs corridor is huge, there are two balconies and plenty of places to sit (when would you actually use all of them?). Especially in this house, I think 20sqm (215 sq ft) for the kids would be reasonable.
Teenagers tend to spend more time in their rooms. At least I wanted a lot of privacy as a teenager and didn’t want to be sitting on the sofa with my parents. I preferred retreating to my room.
And honestly, I wouldn’t buy such a large house (considering resale value) if the kids ended up with poor room choices. I would always try to give the kids the south- or west-facing rooms if possible.
You cannot describe the behavior of children in front of the camera as normal. Everything is new, there are many unfamiliar people, the hustle and bustle, and then the only familiar person is sitting there.
I believe the budget was sufficiently available. I don’t recall the whole thing being just a pipe dream.
It is unbalanced.
I believe the budget was sufficiently available. I don’t recall the whole thing being just a pipe dream.
It is unbalanced.
So, I count three balconies if I consider the exterior views: one above the entrance, one above the terrace, and the small one near the dressing room.
I would remove the one above the entrance immediately and at least carefully reconsider the others.
The ground floor is so much better!
The lounge area in the bedroom is a nice idea, but I’m afraid you probably won’t use it. There’s a huge living room downstairs, so why would you sit in the bedroom up there? And then have to go all the way down to the kitchen for every glass of wine? Honestly? Why? Imagine the scenario and give it a reality check.
A second place to watch TV? I would rather give that to the kids’ rooms. That might be a good idea since they are already teenagers. Have you thought about not only giving them an extra bathroom but maybe also a small day room with a kitchenette? A school friend of mine had that, and I thought it was great!
That way, your teenagers can quickly cook a pile of pasta without needing to use the main living area.
Why do the roof’s two gables face south and north? That’s quite expensive for space that apparently is only there for show. Either integrate it into the living concept (for example, the kids’ bedroom could have access upstairs via stairs from each bedroom) or skip it.
Have you really thought through the terrace on the north side? Why?
I would remove the one above the entrance immediately and at least carefully reconsider the others.
The ground floor is so much better!
The lounge area in the bedroom is a nice idea, but I’m afraid you probably won’t use it. There’s a huge living room downstairs, so why would you sit in the bedroom up there? And then have to go all the way down to the kitchen for every glass of wine? Honestly? Why? Imagine the scenario and give it a reality check.
A second place to watch TV? I would rather give that to the kids’ rooms. That might be a good idea since they are already teenagers. Have you thought about not only giving them an extra bathroom but maybe also a small day room with a kitchenette? A school friend of mine had that, and I thought it was great!
That way, your teenagers can quickly cook a pile of pasta without needing to use the main living area.
Why do the roof’s two gables face south and north? That’s quite expensive for space that apparently is only there for show. Either integrate it into the living concept (for example, the kids’ bedroom could have access upstairs via stairs from each bedroom) or skip it.
Have you really thought through the terrace on the north side? Why?
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pagoni202029 Sep 2020 11:32haydee schrieb:
You can’t describe children’s behavior in front of the camera as normal. Everything is new, full of strangers, the hectic atmosphere, and then the only familiar presence is sitting there.
I believe the budget was sufficient. I don’t remember it as just a pipe dream.
It’s unbalanced. That’s not exactly what I meant in a simplistic way, but I do think that a child often perceives things very differently than an adult (who thinks). And if a child runs towards the elephant, they forget about the size of the room.
I wasn’t arguing for small rooms but only pointing out that I often read or hear about what is designed for children without being sure that this is how the children actually experience it. The example of a show like that was just a simple illustration.
To be constructive, we have a similar size (just under 200m2 (2,150 sq ft)) and similar room requirements. Our plot access is also from the south. I’m not allowed to share the floor plan (which was mostly my design) because the homeowner prefers not to. However, I can share how I would roughly change the layout today, after about three years living in the house...
Currently, like in your design, we have a straight staircase starting near the entrance. I wouldn’t do that again because dirt tends to accumulate in that area, and small stones don’t look good on a nice wooden open-riser staircase.
By the way, the children’s rooms are almost 20m2 (215 sq ft). It would have been better to have both children’s rooms on the south side, especially since the north side is quieter for us. However, having a separate parents’ area was an important requirement for the client.
Right now, we would also integrate the staircase on the ground floor into the living/dining area. With small children, there isn’t much noise coming from upstairs, but maybe the decision would be different with teenagers...
Currently, like in your design, we have a straight staircase starting near the entrance. I wouldn’t do that again because dirt tends to accumulate in that area, and small stones don’t look good on a nice wooden open-riser staircase.
By the way, the children’s rooms are almost 20m2 (215 sq ft). It would have been better to have both children’s rooms on the south side, especially since the north side is quieter for us. However, having a separate parents’ area was an important requirement for the client.
Right now, we would also integrate the staircase on the ground floor into the living/dining area. With small children, there isn’t much noise coming from upstairs, but maybe the decision would be different with teenagers...
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