ᐅ New single-family house, 170 sqm, for 4 people in Lower Saxony
Created on: 28 Jan 2020 21:36
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palmenhaus
Hello housebuilding community,
We would also like to make our dream of owning a home come true.
The layout planning is already quite advanced in our minds, and after initial discussions with builders, more concrete ideas are now taking shape. We would greatly appreciate ideas, criticism, feedback, and anything else you might have.
The presented drawings are not yet 100% finalized, we know that. However, we would like to speed up the process with the help of your input, so please bear with us. I will try to answer any open questions or issues promptly.
Based on the sketch (also available as an attachment), a detailed floor plan has been drawn. The garage is missing, and the door from the utility room to the garage is not yet correct. But overall—in terms of room layout, room sizes, windows, etc.—it is roughly right. We are looking for initial feedback here. Thanks in advance.
Development plan / Restrictions
Plot size: 756 sqm (8,133 sq ft)
Slope: no
Site coverage ratio: see image
Floor area ratio: see image
Building envelope, building line, and boundary: see image
Edge development: no
Number of parking spaces: 2
Number of storeys: 2
Roof type: gable roof
Architectural style: modern
Orientation: south
Maximum heights / limits: 9.5 m (31 ft) ridge height
Additional requirements: 3.80 m (12.5 ft) eaves height, roof pitch 38–45 degrees
Owners’ requirements
Style, roof type, building type: modern gable roof with parapet and plastered bay window
Basement, storeys: no basement, 2 storeys
Number of people, ages: 4 people, 2 adults, 2 children (2.5 years old)
Space requirements on ground floor and upper floor: GF = 95 sqm (1,022 sq ft); UF = 75 sqm (807 sq ft)
Office: family use or home office? Home office and guest room
Number of overnight guests per year: 20
Open or closed architecture
Conservative or modern construction method
Open kitchen, kitchen island: yes
Number of dining seats: 6
Fireplace: yes
Music / stereo wall: TV wall
Balcony, roof terrace: no
Garage, carport: double garage with direct access to the house and storage area
Utility garden, greenhouse: beds and lawn
Additional wishes / special features / daily routine, including reasons why some things are not desired:
- Gable side facing the street to have the living area including roof facing south
- Garage aligned at 90 degrees to the house
- No living rooms facing the Netto supermarket, which is northwest of the house
- So far no pantry, but we would like one
- Two equally sized children’s rooms facing south / bay window
House design
Who made the plan: Do-it-yourself
What do you particularly like? Why? – Modern elements through bay window, living area, and guest room separated from bedrooms upstairs
What don’t you like? Why?
Estimated price according to architect/planner: approx. 380,000 EUR
Personal price limit for house including fittings: 420,000 EUR
Preferred heating technology: ground-source heat pump with drilling
If you had to give up something, which details or extensions would you omit?
- Could give up: pantry, second extension, utility room and technical room combined
- Cannot give up: open living/dining area, guest WC with shower, direct passage from utility room to garage
Why is the design like it is? For example:
Standard design from the planner? Inspired by a friend’s house which we like a lot
Which wishes were implemented by the architect? Yes
What makes it particularly good or bad in your opinion? Enough space to live on the ground floor, good storage space in the utility room, clear lines
What is the most important/basic question about the floor plan, summarized in 130 characters?
Separation of living area including office/guest room with shower WC on ground floor and sleeping area upstairs, clear lines, kitchen and living/dining area not in one row but slightly offset, south-facing orientation.
The upper floor is still giving us some headache as we currently don’t find it optimal.
We would also like to make our dream of owning a home come true.
The layout planning is already quite advanced in our minds, and after initial discussions with builders, more concrete ideas are now taking shape. We would greatly appreciate ideas, criticism, feedback, and anything else you might have.
The presented drawings are not yet 100% finalized, we know that. However, we would like to speed up the process with the help of your input, so please bear with us. I will try to answer any open questions or issues promptly.
Based on the sketch (also available as an attachment), a detailed floor plan has been drawn. The garage is missing, and the door from the utility room to the garage is not yet correct. But overall—in terms of room layout, room sizes, windows, etc.—it is roughly right. We are looking for initial feedback here. Thanks in advance.
Development plan / Restrictions
Plot size: 756 sqm (8,133 sq ft)
Slope: no
Site coverage ratio: see image
Floor area ratio: see image
Building envelope, building line, and boundary: see image
Edge development: no
Number of parking spaces: 2
Number of storeys: 2
Roof type: gable roof
Architectural style: modern
Orientation: south
Maximum heights / limits: 9.5 m (31 ft) ridge height
Additional requirements: 3.80 m (12.5 ft) eaves height, roof pitch 38–45 degrees
Owners’ requirements
Style, roof type, building type: modern gable roof with parapet and plastered bay window
Basement, storeys: no basement, 2 storeys
Number of people, ages: 4 people, 2 adults, 2 children (2.5 years old)
Space requirements on ground floor and upper floor: GF = 95 sqm (1,022 sq ft); UF = 75 sqm (807 sq ft)
Office: family use or home office? Home office and guest room
Number of overnight guests per year: 20
Open or closed architecture
Conservative or modern construction method
Open kitchen, kitchen island: yes
Number of dining seats: 6
Fireplace: yes
Music / stereo wall: TV wall
Balcony, roof terrace: no
Garage, carport: double garage with direct access to the house and storage area
Utility garden, greenhouse: beds and lawn
Additional wishes / special features / daily routine, including reasons why some things are not desired:
- Gable side facing the street to have the living area including roof facing south
- Garage aligned at 90 degrees to the house
- No living rooms facing the Netto supermarket, which is northwest of the house
- So far no pantry, but we would like one
- Two equally sized children’s rooms facing south / bay window
House design
Who made the plan: Do-it-yourself
What do you particularly like? Why? – Modern elements through bay window, living area, and guest room separated from bedrooms upstairs
What don’t you like? Why?
Estimated price according to architect/planner: approx. 380,000 EUR
Personal price limit for house including fittings: 420,000 EUR
Preferred heating technology: ground-source heat pump with drilling
If you had to give up something, which details or extensions would you omit?
- Could give up: pantry, second extension, utility room and technical room combined
- Cannot give up: open living/dining area, guest WC with shower, direct passage from utility room to garage
Why is the design like it is? For example:
Standard design from the planner? Inspired by a friend’s house which we like a lot
Which wishes were implemented by the architect? Yes
What makes it particularly good or bad in your opinion? Enough space to live on the ground floor, good storage space in the utility room, clear lines
What is the most important/basic question about the floor plan, summarized in 130 characters?
Separation of living area including office/guest room with shower WC on ground floor and sleeping area upstairs, clear lines, kitchen and living/dining area not in one row but slightly offset, south-facing orientation.
The upper floor is still giving us some headache as we currently don’t find it optimal.
I really don’t like the upper floor layout. All rooms (except the bedroom and bathroom) are too narrow to be pleasant or practical.
Bathroom: The layout is ruined by the L-shape. The space feels broken up. What is the purpose of the first 4 square meters (43 square feet)? The room needs a proper design.
Why is there a niche in the ground floor hallway with three doors leading off it? Where is the coat storage?
A pantry is hardly necessary with a grocery store nearby. If it must be included, the floor area provides enough storage space for a pantry.
Bathroom: The layout is ruined by the L-shape. The space feels broken up. What is the purpose of the first 4 square meters (43 square feet)? The room needs a proper design.
Why is there a niche in the ground floor hallway with three doors leading off it? Where is the coat storage?
A pantry is hardly necessary with a grocery store nearby. If it must be included, the floor area provides enough storage space for a pantry.
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Matthew0329 Jan 2020 12:21What do you include in your budget under "fixtures and fittings"? You have a spacious 200 sqm (2,150 sq ft) of living space here, which means at least around 400k plus additional costs plus garage... just so you don’t get any surprises.
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palmenhaus29 Jan 2020 21:45The suggestion about the bay window is good; we will enlarge it.
At the moment, I can’t think of a better option for the upper floor, as mentioned, we’re not happy with it either. Perhaps a different staircase design? Due to the low knee wall, we’re also limited with the furniture, for example in the bathroom.
The niche in the hallway is meant to break up the corridor a bit, with the coat rack as a closet, and possibly a built-in wardrobe in the office.
The budget equipment is a reserve for miscellaneous items. Since the ground floor is designed with the flat bay window, the living area should max out at about 180 m² (1,940 sq ft). Roughly estimated, 420,000 EUR plus additional costs should be sufficient.
At the moment, I can’t think of a better option for the upper floor, as mentioned, we’re not happy with it either. Perhaps a different staircase design? Due to the low knee wall, we’re also limited with the furniture, for example in the bathroom.
The niche in the hallway is meant to break up the corridor a bit, with the coat rack as a closet, and possibly a built-in wardrobe in the office.
The budget equipment is a reserve for miscellaneous items. Since the ground floor is designed with the flat bay window, the living area should max out at about 180 m² (1,940 sq ft). Roughly estimated, 420,000 EUR plus additional costs should be sufficient.
Ground floor: I don’t like the hallway corner (guest room/restroom/kitchen).
Where should a proper cloakroom be placed?
Is the bay window for the dining table with occupied chairs too tight?
How should the kitchen be furnished?
Doors take up a lot of space.
Upper floor:
Bathroom fragmented by the T-shape.
Dressing room too narrow.
Children’s room feels uncomfortable and narrow.
Hallway very large.
Where should a proper cloakroom be placed?
Is the bay window for the dining table with occupied chairs too tight?
How should the kitchen be furnished?
Doors take up a lot of space.
Upper floor:
Bathroom fragmented by the T-shape.
Dressing room too narrow.
Children’s room feels uncomfortable and narrow.
Hallway very large.
Kitchen and dining table separated by a wall will not work. The kitchen, likely an L-shape with an island, is positioned in front of the sliding door, but the room is not wide enough for this. On the other side, you would bump into the table.
With a counter spacing of only 100cm (39 inches) and the island depth, there are 80cm (31 inches) left to the living room sliding door. If you want to work comfortably in the kitchen, the counter spacing should be 120cm (47 inches), leaving 60cm (24 inches) to the living room wall.
It might be better to separate the living room for a peaceful and quiet atmosphere.
With a counter spacing of only 100cm (39 inches) and the island depth, there are 80cm (31 inches) left to the living room sliding door. If you want to work comfortably in the kitchen, the counter spacing should be 120cm (47 inches), leaving 60cm (24 inches) to the living room wall.
It might be better to separate the living room for a peaceful and quiet atmosphere.
I mostly agree with the previous comments. The bathroom is unpleasant, and the hallway on the upper floor is also problematic – this negatively affects the children's room as well. The walk-in closet has an awkward window position (but better than none). The space for a wardrobe becomes tight once the missing door is added. The bay window for the dining table is a bit too narrow. What are the dimensions of the shower on the ground floor? I would also like to know the bedroom depth.
Additionally, I find the cut-out in the hallway wall to create an extra kitchen door unfortunate. The walls are all staggered as a result, causing an uncomfortable sense of disorder. Either I align the walls parallel to the staircase or I omit the cut-out entirely.
A few dimensions and elevations would be helpful.
Additionally, I find the cut-out in the hallway wall to create an extra kitchen door unfortunate. The walls are all staggered as a result, causing an uncomfortable sense of disorder. Either I align the walls parallel to the staircase or I omit the cut-out entirely.
A few dimensions and elevations would be helpful.
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