ᐅ New construction of a semi-detached house approximately 8 by 11 meters, assessment of floor plan and windows
Created on: 18 May 2018 12:56
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espressionist
Hello everyone,
we are currently planning a semi-detached house measuring 8 x 11 m (26 x 36 ft) on a 289 sqm (3,110 sq ft) plot in a new development area (the neighboring house has not been built yet, as the area is still being developed).
We would appreciate your comments on the current floor plans and any tips regarding window planning!
Thank you very much!
Development Plan / Restrictions
Plot size: 289 sqm (3,110 sq ft), approx. 10.3 x 29 m (34 x 95 ft), slightly angled in the southern section
Slope: no
Site coverage ratio: 0.35
Floor area ratio: 0.6
Building envelope, building line and boundaries: The building envelope starts 3 m (10 ft) south of the northern street and is 14 m (46 ft) long. There is an additional building easement (semi-detached house), and the building envelope ends 2.5 m (8 ft) before the eastern dead-end street.
Parking spaces: 2
Orientation: north-south
Other requirements: roof shape (gable roof), roof pitch (34 degrees), and eaves height (6 m / 20 ft) have already been agreed with the neighbors.
Client Requirements
Style, roof shape, building type: classic-modern, gable roof, semi-detached house
Basement, floors: basement, ground floor + upper floor as full stories
Number of occupants, ages: 4 (40, 40, 5, 1)
Ground floor room requirements: kitchen, dining area, living room, study (for occasional home office), WC + shower, cloakroom
Upper floor room requirements: bathroom, master bedroom, 2 children’s bedrooms (preferably similar size)
Office: home office
Guest stays per year: probably rare (2-3 times for 2-3 days)
Open or closed layout: open preferred on the ground floor (kitchen, dining, living areas), otherwise the rooms might feel too small
Open kitchen, kitchen island: open kitchen with a peninsula
Number of dining seats: regularly 6 with our current table (can be extended for up to 4 more seats)
Fireplace: no
Music/sound system wall: in the living room by the TV wall
Balcony, rooftop terrace: no
Garage, carport: carport (6.5 x 4 m / 21 x 13 ft) on the north side. Currently, a 2 x 2.5 m (7 x 8 ft) shed for bicycles, etc. is planned on the west side of the carport. The carport also serves as a covered entrance.
Vegetable garden, greenhouse: we would like to plant a little (e.g. raised bed), but it should not cause stress
Additional wishes / special features / daily routine, also reasons why certain things should or should not be included:
Our requirement for the upper floor was that the parents’ and children’s areas are at least somewhat separated (no shared wall).
This was achieved by the architect through a walk-in closet between the master bedroom and children’s room.
We can hardly do without a basement, as we cannot fit a garage on the plot (due to setback requirements in the development plan, this would force us to make the house narrower or give up too much garden space), and we also have limited space for storage or building services.
Because this results in a nicely sized hobby room in the basement, we decided not to finish the attic (so it will only be a roof space), as we believe we can fit everything else inside.
A finished attic would certainly be nice (guest room, media room, library, etc.) but with estimated additional costs of about 30,000, we prefer to forgo it.
House Design
Planning by: architect of our prefabricated house company
What do you like most? Why? Bedrooms and children’s rooms are adequately sized (previous plans had children’s rooms at 13 sqm / 140 sq ft), office on the ground floor (close to kitchen for coffee breaks), bright dining area
What do you dislike? Why? Windows—the architects’ design in the children’s rooms is okay, but in the master bedroom (window on the north side with the bed partially underneath), in the office (we would like a bookshelf on the north side and desk on the south side to avoid direct light on the monitor; parking space is planned on the east side, so a car would be parked right in front of the window), and bathroom / WC (parapet height too low?) are not completely convincing.
Price estimate from architect/planner: approximately 370,000 (turnkey, with floors already selected by us—we had a preliminary selection)
Personal budget limit for house, including finishing: about 400,000
Preferred heating system: air-to-water heat pump, underfloor heating
If you had to give up something, which details/finishes
- What you can give up: instead of a sliding door to the terrace, a regular door; instead of aluminum-plastic windows, only plastic windows (difference of 4,000); planned premium for a different staircase (7,000); partial wood facade omitted (planned cost 1,500)
- What you cannot give up: house size (should not be smaller)
Why is the design as it is now?
We initially spent several hours with a very friendly consultant from the company to develop a design based on our requirements (office on ground floor, slight separation of parent and children areas, shower on ground floor, basement, carport).
A friend who is an architect made some suggestions, and after an in-depth discussion with us, the company’s architect created the attached floor plan.
We like the floor plan quite well so far (we know that planning a semi-detached house comes with some limitations), but the window planning seems somewhat “old-fashioned” to us.
What is the most important / fundamental question about the floor plan, summarized in 130 characters?
Are there any major flaws in the floor plan that we have not noticed yet?
What would you possibly optimize?
What do you think about the window planning and our suggestions regarding it?
Thank you very much for your help and for the time you spend in this forum.
We appreciate any feedback!
we are currently planning a semi-detached house measuring 8 x 11 m (26 x 36 ft) on a 289 sqm (3,110 sq ft) plot in a new development area (the neighboring house has not been built yet, as the area is still being developed).
We would appreciate your comments on the current floor plans and any tips regarding window planning!
Thank you very much!
Development Plan / Restrictions
Plot size: 289 sqm (3,110 sq ft), approx. 10.3 x 29 m (34 x 95 ft), slightly angled in the southern section
Slope: no
Site coverage ratio: 0.35
Floor area ratio: 0.6
Building envelope, building line and boundaries: The building envelope starts 3 m (10 ft) south of the northern street and is 14 m (46 ft) long. There is an additional building easement (semi-detached house), and the building envelope ends 2.5 m (8 ft) before the eastern dead-end street.
Parking spaces: 2
Orientation: north-south
Other requirements: roof shape (gable roof), roof pitch (34 degrees), and eaves height (6 m / 20 ft) have already been agreed with the neighbors.
Client Requirements
Style, roof shape, building type: classic-modern, gable roof, semi-detached house
Basement, floors: basement, ground floor + upper floor as full stories
Number of occupants, ages: 4 (40, 40, 5, 1)
Ground floor room requirements: kitchen, dining area, living room, study (for occasional home office), WC + shower, cloakroom
Upper floor room requirements: bathroom, master bedroom, 2 children’s bedrooms (preferably similar size)
Office: home office
Guest stays per year: probably rare (2-3 times for 2-3 days)
Open or closed layout: open preferred on the ground floor (kitchen, dining, living areas), otherwise the rooms might feel too small
Open kitchen, kitchen island: open kitchen with a peninsula
Number of dining seats: regularly 6 with our current table (can be extended for up to 4 more seats)
Fireplace: no
Music/sound system wall: in the living room by the TV wall
Balcony, rooftop terrace: no
Garage, carport: carport (6.5 x 4 m / 21 x 13 ft) on the north side. Currently, a 2 x 2.5 m (7 x 8 ft) shed for bicycles, etc. is planned on the west side of the carport. The carport also serves as a covered entrance.
Vegetable garden, greenhouse: we would like to plant a little (e.g. raised bed), but it should not cause stress
Additional wishes / special features / daily routine, also reasons why certain things should or should not be included:
Our requirement for the upper floor was that the parents’ and children’s areas are at least somewhat separated (no shared wall).
This was achieved by the architect through a walk-in closet between the master bedroom and children’s room.
We can hardly do without a basement, as we cannot fit a garage on the plot (due to setback requirements in the development plan, this would force us to make the house narrower or give up too much garden space), and we also have limited space for storage or building services.
Because this results in a nicely sized hobby room in the basement, we decided not to finish the attic (so it will only be a roof space), as we believe we can fit everything else inside.
A finished attic would certainly be nice (guest room, media room, library, etc.) but with estimated additional costs of about 30,000, we prefer to forgo it.
House Design
Planning by: architect of our prefabricated house company
What do you like most? Why? Bedrooms and children’s rooms are adequately sized (previous plans had children’s rooms at 13 sqm / 140 sq ft), office on the ground floor (close to kitchen for coffee breaks), bright dining area
What do you dislike? Why? Windows—the architects’ design in the children’s rooms is okay, but in the master bedroom (window on the north side with the bed partially underneath), in the office (we would like a bookshelf on the north side and desk on the south side to avoid direct light on the monitor; parking space is planned on the east side, so a car would be parked right in front of the window), and bathroom / WC (parapet height too low?) are not completely convincing.
Price estimate from architect/planner: approximately 370,000 (turnkey, with floors already selected by us—we had a preliminary selection)
Personal budget limit for house, including finishing: about 400,000
Preferred heating system: air-to-water heat pump, underfloor heating
If you had to give up something, which details/finishes
- What you can give up: instead of a sliding door to the terrace, a regular door; instead of aluminum-plastic windows, only plastic windows (difference of 4,000); planned premium for a different staircase (7,000); partial wood facade omitted (planned cost 1,500)
- What you cannot give up: house size (should not be smaller)
Why is the design as it is now?
We initially spent several hours with a very friendly consultant from the company to develop a design based on our requirements (office on ground floor, slight separation of parent and children areas, shower on ground floor, basement, carport).
A friend who is an architect made some suggestions, and after an in-depth discussion with us, the company’s architect created the attached floor plan.
We like the floor plan quite well so far (we know that planning a semi-detached house comes with some limitations), but the window planning seems somewhat “old-fashioned” to us.
What is the most important / fundamental question about the floor plan, summarized in 130 characters?
Are there any major flaws in the floor plan that we have not noticed yet?
What would you possibly optimize?
What do you think about the window planning and our suggestions regarding it?
Thank you very much for your help and for the time you spend in this forum.
We appreciate any feedback!
L along the interior walls, door to the terrace, to the left of the terrace door a long island (depth needs to be checked, whether 80, 90, or 100 cm (31, 35, or 39 inches)).
The island should be long enough so there is still enough walking space in front of the room door (about 1.50 m (5 feet), sorry, I don’t have the exact measurements in mind). Distance between island and row about 1.20 or 1.30 m (4 or 4.3 feet). Terrace door 1 m (39 inches).
That’s how I would do it for myself, I can easily imagine it and find it impressive.
Sorry for being brief. I’m on an overseas vacation, and unfortunately, the pictures are not loading [emoji20].
The island should be long enough so there is still enough walking space in front of the room door (about 1.50 m (5 feet), sorry, I don’t have the exact measurements in mind). Distance between island and row about 1.20 or 1.30 m (4 or 4.3 feet). Terrace door 1 m (39 inches).
That’s how I would do it for myself, I can easily imagine it and find it impressive.
Sorry for being brief. I’m on an overseas vacation, and unfortunately, the pictures are not loading [emoji20].
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espressionist23 May 2018 12:23ypg schrieb:
Sorry for being brief. I’m on an overseas vacation, and unfortunately the pictures aren’t loading [emoji20]Then I wish you a great vacation!
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espressionist26 May 2018 23:43I tried to visualize both options (kitchen in the south versus the original plan).
Of course, there are advantages and disadvantages to both. Here are the ones I came up with:
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Kitchen upstairs, as originally planned:
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+ 2 doors (living room and kitchen) accessible from the hallway. This allows more light in the probably rather dark hallway (e.g., through glass doors/sliding door)
+ Kitchen is less dominant
+ Door from kitchen to outside (east side) possible (herb garden and maybe a small bench for coffee)
+ Tiling feasible (between the main counter and peninsula)
- Longer distance from kitchen to terrace
- Living room faces south
- Sofa placement visually reduces the room size
- TV is very prominent
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Kitchen in the south:
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+ Kitchen island possible
+ Living area more separated
+ Direct access to terrace/garden from kitchen
+ Additional door on the south side possible, providing more light
+ TV less prominent
- Kitchen is very dominant
- Tiling in the kitchen area is a bit more challenging (likely only possible between the main counter and island, but we are not sure if that would look good)
Best regards and have a nice Sunday!
Of course, there are advantages and disadvantages to both. Here are the ones I came up with:
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Kitchen upstairs, as originally planned:
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+ 2 doors (living room and kitchen) accessible from the hallway. This allows more light in the probably rather dark hallway (e.g., through glass doors/sliding door)
+ Kitchen is less dominant
+ Door from kitchen to outside (east side) possible (herb garden and maybe a small bench for coffee)
+ Tiling feasible (between the main counter and peninsula)
- Longer distance from kitchen to terrace
- Living room faces south
- Sofa placement visually reduces the room size
- TV is very prominent
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Kitchen in the south:
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+ Kitchen island possible
+ Living area more separated
+ Direct access to terrace/garden from kitchen
+ Additional door on the south side possible, providing more light
+ TV less prominent
- Kitchen is very dominant
- Tiling in the kitchen area is a bit more challenging (likely only possible between the main counter and island, but we are not sure if that would look good)
Best regards and have a nice Sunday!
I don’t know how others feel about this. Kitchen aside, what really bothers me is the wall that sticks out awkwardly into the living area. Forcing the staircase into the hallway might make the living space quieter, but it also makes it feel extremely cramped and uncomfortable. I would never build like that.
The staircase is a key feature in a semi-detached house anyway, since you have to go up and down constantly in a limited space. Life happens on all levels. We also lived in a terraced house with an open staircase in the living area, and it didn’t bother us at all. Therefore, I would strongly recommend moving the wall toward the entrance and keeping the spacious living feel.
The staircase is a key feature in a semi-detached house anyway, since you have to go up and down constantly in a limited space. Life happens on all levels. We also lived in a terraced house with an open staircase in the living area, and it didn’t bother us at all. Therefore, I would strongly recommend moving the wall toward the entrance and keeping the spacious living feel.
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espressionist27 May 2018 10:59Thank you very much for your feedback.
I would like to briefly explain how the design came about:
We had the idea to separate the staircase from the living area so that the children would not always have to go through the living room to get to their rooms once they are teenagers.
Also, we did not want direct access from the living area to the basement (where two bicycles will be stored).
The semi-detached house is 8 m (26 feet) wide, which is 1.5–2 m (5–7 feet) wider than the usual semi-detached house, so we thought this might actually work.
Maybe a good compromise would be to keep the wall between the staircase and the living room as wide as originally planned in @kaho674’s design and only open it to the kitchen, or perhaps install a large glass sliding door there?
I would like to briefly explain how the design came about:
We had the idea to separate the staircase from the living area so that the children would not always have to go through the living room to get to their rooms once they are teenagers.
Also, we did not want direct access from the living area to the basement (where two bicycles will be stored).
The semi-detached house is 8 m (26 feet) wide, which is 1.5–2 m (5–7 feet) wider than the usual semi-detached house, so we thought this might actually work.
Maybe a good compromise would be to keep the wall between the staircase and the living room as wide as originally planned in @kaho674’s design and only open it to the kitchen, or perhaps install a large glass sliding door there?
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