ᐅ New construction after the birth of triplets. Looking forward to your ideas.
Created on: 23 Sep 2018 21:07
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Hendrik M.
Hello everyone,
my name is Hendrik, and I lived with my small family in a cozy single-family home in Bad Nenndorf. However, last December our family suddenly grew by 3 boys. Unfortunately, our house is not suitable for 4 children. There is a new development area in our town, so we are now considering building a new house.
I haven’t been able to find many interesting floor plans online for houses with 7 rooms. Maybe you have some ideas?
A very important point for a new build is that the house shouldn’t be too large once the children have moved out. In other words, it would be great if you had ideas on how to make use of the unused living space in a way that still feels spacious.
At the moment, we are thinking along the following lines:
- Total size around 250sqm (2,690 sq ft)
- 4 children’s bedrooms, 1 guest room, sleeping room and living room
- 2 bathrooms with showers and 1 guest toilet
- Sauna in one of the bathrooms with a shower
- No basement, but enough storage space
- Currently preferred style is an urban villa (but then where do you store all your stuff if you have neither a basement nor an attic?)
- Living conservatory over 20sqm (215 sq ft)
- Double garage with an adjoining workshop
- Open kitchen connected to the living room
I would be really happy if anyone has ideas for a nice floor plan.
Unfortunately, with the triplets (now 9 months old) and their sister (3 years), we only have about half an hour per day to think about these matters, which is quite stressful for us. So I ask for your understanding if this request seems a bit unspecific to some of you.
Another option would be to extend our current house. An architect estimated around €2000 per sqm (note: do not translate currency, but consider for your understanding) and estimated the cost for a living conservatory (40sqm / 430 sq ft) to be about €80,000.
Where do you think we would end up with a new build as described above? Would €500,000 to €600,000 be realistic (excluding land, but including garage)?
Many thanks for your ideas,
Hendrik
my name is Hendrik, and I lived with my small family in a cozy single-family home in Bad Nenndorf. However, last December our family suddenly grew by 3 boys. Unfortunately, our house is not suitable for 4 children. There is a new development area in our town, so we are now considering building a new house.
I haven’t been able to find many interesting floor plans online for houses with 7 rooms. Maybe you have some ideas?
A very important point for a new build is that the house shouldn’t be too large once the children have moved out. In other words, it would be great if you had ideas on how to make use of the unused living space in a way that still feels spacious.
At the moment, we are thinking along the following lines:
- Total size around 250sqm (2,690 sq ft)
- 4 children’s bedrooms, 1 guest room, sleeping room and living room
- 2 bathrooms with showers and 1 guest toilet
- Sauna in one of the bathrooms with a shower
- No basement, but enough storage space
- Currently preferred style is an urban villa (but then where do you store all your stuff if you have neither a basement nor an attic?)
- Living conservatory over 20sqm (215 sq ft)
- Double garage with an adjoining workshop
- Open kitchen connected to the living room
I would be really happy if anyone has ideas for a nice floor plan.
Unfortunately, with the triplets (now 9 months old) and their sister (3 years), we only have about half an hour per day to think about these matters, which is quite stressful for us. So I ask for your understanding if this request seems a bit unspecific to some of you.
Another option would be to extend our current house. An architect estimated around €2000 per sqm (note: do not translate currency, but consider for your understanding) and estimated the cost for a living conservatory (40sqm / 430 sq ft) to be about €80,000.
Where do you think we would end up with a new build as described above? Would €500,000 to €600,000 be realistic (excluding land, but including garage)?
Many thanks for your ideas,
Hendrik
Well, you also have to budget around 2,000 per square meter for a new build, it’s basically the same. But with a new build, there are many things you already have with your current home—utilities connection, landscaping, kitchen, garage, and so on. All of that is already in place. Plus, there’s the whole hassle of a new build, starting from planning, dealing with permits or building permission, obtaining loan offers, and the construction itself. I’m not even going to start on the moving process, selling your current property, and so forth.
I don’t know what prices are like in your area, but do you think you would cover the difference between extending and building new by selling your current home?
If you’re happy with your house otherwise, I would recommend extending, as long as a suitable solution can be found. Building new would be way too complicated and time-consuming for me...
I don’t know what prices are like in your area, but do you think you would cover the difference between extending and building new by selling your current home?
If you’re happy with your house otherwise, I would recommend extending, as long as a suitable solution can be found. Building new would be way too complicated and time-consuming for me...
Hendrik M. schrieb:
One alternative would be to extend our current house. An architect estimated costs at 2000 euros per square meter and expects the expenses for the winter garden (40 m² (430 sq ft)) to be around 80,000 euros.Do you already have sketches for this? Maybe attach them as images in the first post, along with a dimensioned sketch of the existing plot and the house floor plan.
Why the first post? Because it’s easier to find later on.
You can also add a note in the first post like:
EDIT: Floor plans etc. added on xx.xx.xxxx for easy reference.
And once you’ve done that, post a message in this thread to let everyone know.
That way, some members might take half an hour to think it through with you.
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Obstlerbaum24 Sep 2018 15:35Hendrik M. schrieb:
Interesting perspective from you suggesting an extension. We've discussed that a lot as well, but I’m concerned that an extension could really burn through money!? Or is the cost per square meter not that different between extending and building new?Explain a bit more, I lost track halfway through. Where exactly does one lose money when expanding the house? You can do quite a lot with 150,000 (about 165,000 USD) and I’d be surprised if that’s enough just as an additional cost for a new build.
Expanding means the additional space is added on, and the existing structure remains.
New construction means the entire space requirement is newly built, which requires a new plot of land. Replacing the existing building incurs current construction costs, while selling the old property brings in the sales revenue including any appreciation compared to the original construction price, minus fees and taxes associated with the property transfer.
Building an extension on the existing property already saves costs. Extensions also require modifications (an external wall becomes a load-bearing interior wall, windows are converted to doorways, heating pipes need to be extended, etc.).
Often, adding another floor is cheaper than an extension (i.e., more usable attic space by raising the roof or similar). This can be a worthwhile strategy if you are familiar with the existing building and its zoning plan.
Extension or adding a floor means you need temporary accommodation during construction. New construction means the money from selling the old house only comes when you can move out—though we are discussing this particular aspect elsewhere: https://www.hausbau-forum.de/threads/altes-Haus-verkaufen-und-Neubau-in-einem-anderen-Ort-realisieren.28817/
https://www.instagram.com/11antgmxde/
https://www.linkedin.com/company/bauen-jetzt/
New construction means the entire space requirement is newly built, which requires a new plot of land. Replacing the existing building incurs current construction costs, while selling the old property brings in the sales revenue including any appreciation compared to the original construction price, minus fees and taxes associated with the property transfer.
Building an extension on the existing property already saves costs. Extensions also require modifications (an external wall becomes a load-bearing interior wall, windows are converted to doorways, heating pipes need to be extended, etc.).
Often, adding another floor is cheaper than an extension (i.e., more usable attic space by raising the roof or similar). This can be a worthwhile strategy if you are familiar with the existing building and its zoning plan.
Extension or adding a floor means you need temporary accommodation during construction. New construction means the money from selling the old house only comes when you can move out—though we are discussing this particular aspect elsewhere: https://www.hausbau-forum.de/threads/altes-Haus-verkaufen-und-Neubau-in-einem-anderen-Ort-realisieren.28817/
https://www.instagram.com/11antgmxde/
https://www.linkedin.com/company/bauen-jetzt/
And if it is actually a new build, I would design it so that a separate granny flat can be created later for renting out. In other words, a two-generation house with one wing dedicated to the children, which can then be separated later. You would then possibly be left with a ground floor area or something like a duplex.
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