ᐅ New construction, 166 sqm / 1.5 stories / floor plan for a family of five
Created on: 28 Aug 2020 11:43
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netuser
Good day and hello dear forum community!
As a family of five, we have planned to build a house ourselves—or rather have it built—by summer/autumn 2021.
We already purchased a plot of land in 2019, the construction contract with Gussek Haus is signed, and the financing is largely arranged. So now we are about to enter the critical planning phase with the architect, where all details will be thoroughly reviewed, adjusted back and forth, and the building permit (planning permission) application will be prepared.
Since the attached drawings represent only a "rough draft" and can and should still be adjusted, I would greatly appreciate your assessments, advice, or criticism. Especially the latter, as long as it remains constructive, is very welcome.
About our situation, requirements, and wishes:
(Thanks to ypg for the template )
Development Plan / Restrictions
Owners’ Requirements
House Design
If you have to give up something, which details/fixtures
Why is the design as it is now?
We want to make the best possible use of the available space and design it to be practical.
The plot drawing is oriented to true north, the floor plans are not. The top is south, the bottom is north. This means the garage, entrance, and utility room are deliberately placed on the north side. The kitchen and dining/living room should have access to the garden on the east side. Possibly, we would like to design the terrace wrapping around the corner to the east/south.
We do not want or cannot give up the number of rooms at the moment. However, if it makes sense to shift walls here and there or change rooms, we welcome suggestions.
The utility room is a bit small, but should be acceptable since the water tank marked in red does not fit in after all.
What is your most important/basic question about the floor plan, summarized in 130 characters?
Valuable advice is welcome! Many thanks in advance!
As a family of five, we have planned to build a house ourselves—or rather have it built—by summer/autumn 2021.
We already purchased a plot of land in 2019, the construction contract with Gussek Haus is signed, and the financing is largely arranged. So now we are about to enter the critical planning phase with the architect, where all details will be thoroughly reviewed, adjusted back and forth, and the building permit (planning permission) application will be prepared.
Since the attached drawings represent only a "rough draft" and can and should still be adjusted, I would greatly appreciate your assessments, advice, or criticism. Especially the latter, as long as it remains constructive, is very welcome.
About our situation, requirements, and wishes:
(Thanks to ypg for the template )
Development Plan / Restrictions
| Plot size | 550 sqm (5920 sq ft) |
| Slope | no |
| Site coverage ratio | 0.4 |
| Floor area ratio | 166 sqm (1786 sq ft) |
| Building envelope, building line and boundary | 14 m (46 ft), see attachment |
| Number of parking spaces | / |
| Number of stories | 1.5 |
| Roof style | 40° - 45° (gable roof) |
| Maximum height/limits | 4.5 m eave height (14.8 ft) |
Owners’ Requirements
| Basement, floors | no basement; 1.5 floors |
| Number of occupants, ages | 2 adults, 3 children (15, 9, 4) |
| Space needed on ground floor and upper floor | see floor plan |
| Office: family use or home office? | part-time home office; otherwise a multifunctional room for computer work, ironing, etc. |
| Overnight guests per year | 20-30 |
| Number of dining seats | 5 daily; at least 12 otherwise |
| Garage, carport | 1 garage (next to the entrance on the north side), later 1 carport (on the south side) |
House Design
| Who designed the plan? | Gussek Haus; a model house served as a base with our own modifications |
| What do you particularly like? Why? | "Square, practical, good" for everyday family life without unnecessary frills |
| What do you not like? Why? | At first we saw the east orientation as unfavorable, but now we also see some advantages. The ground floor WC does not yet have a suitable solution for the shower. The bathroom on the upper floor is not optimal yet and feels a bit too small. |
| Preferred heating system: | Air-to-water heat pump + controlled mechanical ventilation |
If you have to give up something, which details/fixtures
| You can live without: | good question |
| You cannot live without: | Bedroom/guest room + shower on the ground floor |
Why is the design as it is now?
We want to make the best possible use of the available space and design it to be practical.
The plot drawing is oriented to true north, the floor plans are not. The top is south, the bottom is north. This means the garage, entrance, and utility room are deliberately placed on the north side. The kitchen and dining/living room should have access to the garden on the east side. Possibly, we would like to design the terrace wrapping around the corner to the east/south.
We do not want or cannot give up the number of rooms at the moment. However, if it makes sense to shift walls here and there or change rooms, we welcome suggestions.
The utility room is a bit small, but should be acceptable since the water tank marked in red does not fit in after all.
What is your most important/basic question about the floor plan, summarized in 130 characters?
Valuable advice is welcome! Many thanks in advance!
11ant schrieb:
I have placed the house on the site plan. Gussek Haus builds the dormer for the bathroom so frequently that they will likely know how to do it – otherwise, I would have marked it with a question mark. I am still not enthusiastic about the slope. It does have a height of about 1.15 m (3 ft 9 in), after all.Hello 11ant,
since you were kind enough to place the house on the site plan, I have an additional question and would appreciate your opinions and recommendations.
Because our garage cannot be very long due to the "low-lying" entrance on the north side, we are considering making it wider instead. I am thinking of approximately 4.5 m (15 ft) wide by 6 to 7 m (20 to 23 ft) long, which we would build ourselves (masonry). Are there any recommendations or important points to consider regarding these dimensions? For example, concerning the roof, which must be built as a flat roof according to building regulations. Or any other experiences?
In connection with the garage, which would have to be positioned quite close behind the entrance, I am also considering having a canopy built for the entrance area. See the example image.
Which type of companies would be best to contact for proper planning and quotes? Local carpenters and/or roofers?
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Alessandro31 Aug 2020 10:064.5m (15 feet) sounds reasonable for a car to still pass through alongside a bike, wheelbarrow, etc. For this type of canopy, a carpenter is your go-to professional.
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Matthew0331 Aug 2020 10:44Curly schrieb:
The shower bathroom on the ground floor would be too small for me as a master bathroom. The bathroom upstairs is used by the children, so there’s no room left for the parents there.
Best regards,
Sabine I need to address this again because you @netuser still don’t seem to have an adequate solution, and I consider this more important than it appears here so far.
Since I don’t assume (please correct me if I’m wrong) that both parents will go upstairs daily to use the bathroom occupied by three kids, the guest toilet (intentionally) on the ground floor serves as the master bathroom for the parents... 1.13 meters (3.7 feet) wide and 1.80 meters (5.9 feet) long... with a 40 x 28 cm (16 x 11 inches, external dimensions) sink and effectively no space for a cabinet or similar to store even the minimum bathroom essentials. Are you aware of this, and sincerely, is that not a concern for you?
It doesn’t always have to be a “wellness oasis,” but for me/us, the bathroom is absolutely a comfort zone, pleasantly warm in winter compared to the cooler bedroom, a place where you like to take your time to start the day and wind down in the evening. I see none of that here. If that’s okay with you, fine. But if not: you definitely need to get on this.
We also have an air-to-water heat pump in the utility room and about one square meter (about 10.8 square feet) more space than you, but we also do laundry there. In other words, washing machine, dryer, and drying rack are in the same room. If we separated these as you plan, 6 square meters (about 65 square feet) of utility space would also be enough if well designed. Therefore: take whatever you can get to enlarge the “bathroom.”
netuser schrieb:
Since our garage cannot be very long due to the "low-lying" entrance on the north side, we plan to build it at least wider. I’m thinking about approximately 4.5 m (15 feet) wide by 6–7 m (20–23 feet) long, which we would construct ourselves. Forget that. Do it like Nordlys: build your own private parking bay by the street, and then create a storage room in the garage space with a door leading to the garden. And don’t make it extra long, but just enough so that there’s still a window behind, between the countertop and the wall cabinets.
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netuser schrieb:
If you have the option to sit at the dining table, look out over your own garden, and enjoy the sunrise (E/N), do you really have to put up with a view of hedges and/or the street side? If you place the hedge, carefully chosen and planted, right on the property boundary, you can enjoy a nice view of your own garden and also watch the birds that feel comfortable there. However, I wonder how you plan to see a sunset this way (in summer, by the way, it can be found around 4:30 am in the NE).
In winter, it’s probably possible, but you should really weigh up whether you want to catch a sunrise on the weekend (if the dear sun cooperates) or have natural daylight in the living area. After 3:30 pm, there isn’t much light left there.
I think you might be overestimating the sunrise situation.
But if you want to have it, you should indeed place the bedroom where I suggested.
Matthew03 schrieb:
I need to bring this up again because, @netuser, you haven’t provided an adequate solution so far, and I think it’s more important than it seems here.
Since I don’t assume (please correct me if I’m wrong) that the parents climb upstairs every day to use the bathroom occupied by 3 kids, the guest toilet (intentionally) on the ground floor serves as the parents’ master bathroom... 1.13 meters (3 ft 8 in) wide and 1.80 meters (5 ft 11 in) long... with a 40 x 28 cm (16 x 11 inches) sink (external dimensions!) and practically no space for a cabinet or similar to store basic bathroom essentials. Are you aware of this, or—seriously—isn’t that important to you?
Certainly not unimportant, so you are of course right.
Although we don’t need a spa retreat, at least not in the small bathroom, we will still work on it...
If we manage to reduce the size of the utility room, maybe something like this!?
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