Hello everyone,
I registered here hoping to get some clarity on our building planning situation.
We are considering purchasing a plot of land to build a prefabricated house without a basement. The plot (400 sqm (4,300 sq ft)) will be separated from the rear part of an existing property and accessed via a right of way.
We are trying to clarify in advance, in terms of feasibility and potential purchase price, what additional costs we might face. The biggest part will likely be the utility connections. The distance from the street where the “parent property” is located to the house will be about 26 m (85 ft).
So far, according to the local technical service providers and city drainage authority, we have been told that there is a separate sewer system and that rainwater must be locally infiltrated. Additionally, a lift station (pump system) is necessary.
Apparently, we have to handle the entire installation ourselves.
The following cost estimates were given to us as a basis for judgment:
Wastewater:
Connection to the public sewer network at the property boundary: €1,500–2,000/m (per meter)
Connection on private property: €1,000–1,500/m (per meter)
House connection pipes: €500/m (per meter)
Lift station (pump system): €3,000–6,000
Rainwater:
Infiltration system: €3,000–5,000
House connection pipes: €500/m (per meter)
If I roughly calculate, just sewage costs alone come to around €35,000. Freshwater, electricity, and telecom are not included yet (I’d appreciate your guesses here as well).
If I have to estimate all connections up to the house at €50,000, this does not seem proportional to the land value.
Are these assumptions realistically applicable?
Please forgive my possible naivety, but I am completely new to this and we are only at the initial planning stage.
Unfortunately, online information shows very different figures.
Thank you very much and have a nice weekend,
Tim
I registered here hoping to get some clarity on our building planning situation.
We are considering purchasing a plot of land to build a prefabricated house without a basement. The plot (400 sqm (4,300 sq ft)) will be separated from the rear part of an existing property and accessed via a right of way.
We are trying to clarify in advance, in terms of feasibility and potential purchase price, what additional costs we might face. The biggest part will likely be the utility connections. The distance from the street where the “parent property” is located to the house will be about 26 m (85 ft).
So far, according to the local technical service providers and city drainage authority, we have been told that there is a separate sewer system and that rainwater must be locally infiltrated. Additionally, a lift station (pump system) is necessary.
Apparently, we have to handle the entire installation ourselves.
The following cost estimates were given to us as a basis for judgment:
Wastewater:
Connection to the public sewer network at the property boundary: €1,500–2,000/m (per meter)
Connection on private property: €1,000–1,500/m (per meter)
House connection pipes: €500/m (per meter)
Lift station (pump system): €3,000–6,000
Rainwater:
Infiltration system: €3,000–5,000
House connection pipes: €500/m (per meter)
If I roughly calculate, just sewage costs alone come to around €35,000. Freshwater, electricity, and telecom are not included yet (I’d appreciate your guesses here as well).
If I have to estimate all connections up to the house at €50,000, this does not seem proportional to the land value.
Are these assumptions realistically applicable?
Please forgive my possible naivety, but I am completely new to this and we are only at the initial planning stage.
Unfortunately, online information shows very different figures.
Thank you very much and have a nice weekend,
Tim
Great, you build it like that and then you can high five the neighbor through the window. I’ll correct that—it’s not impossible, but it makes no sense.
Times of dominance. The original poster lives in an area where land values are relatively low. Therefore, it is quite likely that they will simply find a more suitable plot of land.
Times of dominance. The original poster lives in an area where land values are relatively low. Therefore, it is quite likely that they will simply find a more suitable plot of land.
This is a discussion forum, mainly consisting of non-professionals. Naturally, the amount of scientific research is limited. This is about personal opinions.
Is another plot of land an option? How did you come across this property? Is the seller aware of the costs involved, and would there be a possibility to negotiate the purchase price?
Is another plot of land an option? How did you come across this property? Is the seller aware of the costs involved, and would there be a possibility to negotiate the purchase price?
guckuck2 schrieb:
This is a discussion forum mostly consisting of non-experts. Naturally, there is limited scientific research available. This is about personal opinions.
Is another plot of land an option? How did you come across this plot? Is the seller aware of the costs involved, and could this be negotiated as part of the purchase price? Yes, I am aware of that and it’s completely fine. I’m mainly looking for as many opinions and personal experiences as possible.
In the short term, nothing else is being considered.
The plot came to us through a family connection.
She is not really aware of the costs in this form, but she does know that it needs to be connected (to utilities).
That is exactly my point… depending on the effort required, this will certainly be part of the price negotiation.
If the plot is basically worth 100,000 euros, meaning 200€/m2 (around 20.9 USD/ft2), and there are additional follow-up costs of about 60,000 euros to eventually build on it, then it is naturally an argument that an alternative plot could be bought for 300–320€/m2 (about 31.4–33.5 USD/ft2) with correspondingly less effort.
This effort is not only financial; there is also significant practical work involved.
Of course, we have also set a reasonable price limit. We only want to finance the building; everything else must be covered by personal funds.
The advantage of this offer is that plots are scarce here as well, and both the orientation and layout and location would be quite ideal for us.
The total plot she owns is about 2,200 m2 (0.54 acres); she inherited it, is retired herself, and basically does not use anything south of her house, which only causes her work.
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saralina875 Jun 2021 19:39guckuck2 schrieb:
Great, you build it like that and can then high-five your neighbor through the window. Let me correct that: it’s not impossible, but it doesn’t make much sense.
Old-fashioned times. The original poster lives in an area where land prices are relatively low. Therefore, it’s quite likely that they will simply find a more suitable plot of land. I would need very long arms for that...
Nonsense, your statements. You can tell some people miss their usual pub talk.
Sorry for going off-topic to the original poster, but my lovely little house would be crying if I just left it like that.