Hello everyone,
I am finally planning to build our own house with my family. I don’t want to do without a smart system and have already done some research.
Loxone is basically off the table for me because it mainly relies on its proprietary system and products.
Of course, I have repeatedly come back to KNX (as here in the forum as well). However, I am not entirely happy with it because I don’t want to have to call a programmer every time I want to make a change; I also don’t really want to buy the ETS license. Additionally, I want to integrate and network fingerprint scanners, Sonos, and a heat pump, but I haven’t fully figured out how to do this with KNX.
The house basically has two floors with an open-plan kitchen/living area, entrance hall, utility room, bathrooms, children’s rooms, bedroom, garden, and so on.
The following systems should be connected:
- Lighting (some dimmable)
- External blinds / weather station
- Underfloor heating
- Heat pump
- Music system (Sonos)
- Fingerprint access
- Video intercom
- Some switched power outlets
- Photovoltaic system
Since I am technically fairly knowledgeable, I want to be able to manage, adjust, and optimize my system myself in the end.
Does anyone have good input here? Or already experience with Loxone, KNX, or others?
Thanks and best regards,
Stefan
I am finally planning to build our own house with my family. I don’t want to do without a smart system and have already done some research.
Loxone is basically off the table for me because it mainly relies on its proprietary system and products.
Of course, I have repeatedly come back to KNX (as here in the forum as well). However, I am not entirely happy with it because I don’t want to have to call a programmer every time I want to make a change; I also don’t really want to buy the ETS license. Additionally, I want to integrate and network fingerprint scanners, Sonos, and a heat pump, but I haven’t fully figured out how to do this with KNX.
The house basically has two floors with an open-plan kitchen/living area, entrance hall, utility room, bathrooms, children’s rooms, bedroom, garden, and so on.
The following systems should be connected:
- Lighting (some dimmable)
- External blinds / weather station
- Underfloor heating
- Heat pump
- Music system (Sonos)
- Fingerprint access
- Video intercom
- Some switched power outlets
- Photovoltaic system
Since I am technically fairly knowledgeable, I want to be able to manage, adjust, and optimize my system myself in the end.
Does anyone have good input here? Or already experience with Loxone, KNX, or others?
Thanks and best regards,
Stefan
Sorry, but somehow I find this thread funny:
Person A: I’m right
Person B: No, I’m right
Person A: No, that’s not true
Person B: Yes, it is
Then it goes back to the starting point.
Based on building experience, I would agree with Person A, so @Mycraft. (Well, more like a gut feeling)
Person A: I’m right
Person B: No, I’m right
Person A: No, that’s not true
Person B: Yes, it is
Then it goes back to the starting point.
Based on building experience, I would agree with Person A, so @Mycraft. (Well, more like a gut feeling)
Patrick, please make sure to inform yourself before posting anything. With Loxone, the power to the lamp naturally comes from the distribution board through the air, wirelessly, and the extensions also take up no space at all.
@tumaa
Well, it’s always surprising what the marketing team of the Greens manages to do. Gut feeling aside, all the prices are available online—you can calculate everything yourself.
@tumaa
Well, it’s always surprising what the marketing team of the Greens manages to do. Gut feeling aside, all the prices are available online—you can calculate everything yourself.
Mycraft schrieb:
Please, Patrick, make sure to inform yourself before posting something. With Loxone, the power obviously goes from the distribution panel to the lamp wirelessly, through the air, and the extensions don’t take up any space at all.
@tumaa
Well, it’s always surprising what a good marketing department of the Green Party can achieve. Gut feeling aside, all the prices are available online—you can calculate everything yourself.I just didn’t want to be too bold!
I owe you a lot!!!!
untergasse4321 Feb 2020 10:31Patricck schrieb:
Plus the NYM cables from the distribution cabinet to the lamps plus labor time for wiring. Corresponding space requirements in the distribution board. Plus room thermostats..I originally didn’t want to write anything because Mycraft already explained it so well and conclusively. But with THIS statement, you have completely disqualified yourself in this discussion. Tip: 90% of the available KNX push-button sensors already have integrated temperature sensors, so you don’t need separate room thermostats anymore.