ᐅ My floor plan is (almost) finalized; now I could use your help :-)
Created on: 29 Dec 2014 14:44
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cheakyboy29 Dec 2014 14:44Hello everyone,
I’m new to the forum, 28 years old, and from the beautiful Unterfranken region ;-)
I have owned a building plot for about three weeks now, and the house construction is planned to start in the new year. Since we have many skilled tradespeople among our friends and family, we want to do a lot of the work ourselves. After visiting many show homes, we designed the floor plan together with a well-known bricklayer. We have requested quotes from construction companies for the shell of the house and hope to receive prices from the three desired companies by the end of January. (All three companies would also prepare the planning permission / building permit drawings.)
Now to my first questions:
1)
We are still considering if it would be more practical to relocate the toilet to the area marked in green and build a small wall about 1 meter (3 feet) long. My heating engineer (who also handles plumbing) said we might encounter problems with the wastewater system, as we would either have to build a step in the floor near the window side to connect to the soil pipe (red point), or we would have to route the pipes through the ceiling to the ground floor, which would result in a support post in the kitchen area. Do you see any option to place the toilet in this position? Or do you have other suggestions for the bathroom layout that we might not have thought of yet?
The bathroom is 3 meters (10 feet) wide and 4 meters (13 feet) long, with a partition wall at 1.25 meters (4 feet). We have a door opening width of 75 cm (30 inches). There will also be a skylight installed on the sloped ceiling. The soil pipe is planned inside the 24 cm (9.5 inches) wall (red point).
2)
Are water supply pipes typically installed inside the walls or on the floor?
3)
In the living room area, we want recessed ceiling spotlights with a dropped ceiling made of drywall panels. This would reduce the room height to about 2.45 meters (8 feet). Alternatively, should we break out the concrete ceiling? Is it possible to build 11 courses of bricks instead of the usual 10.5 to gain some extra room height, and what additional costs should we expect for this increase?
Thank you very much in advance.
I’m new to the forum, 28 years old, and from the beautiful Unterfranken region ;-)
I have owned a building plot for about three weeks now, and the house construction is planned to start in the new year. Since we have many skilled tradespeople among our friends and family, we want to do a lot of the work ourselves. After visiting many show homes, we designed the floor plan together with a well-known bricklayer. We have requested quotes from construction companies for the shell of the house and hope to receive prices from the three desired companies by the end of January. (All three companies would also prepare the planning permission / building permit drawings.)
Now to my first questions:
1)
We are still considering if it would be more practical to relocate the toilet to the area marked in green and build a small wall about 1 meter (3 feet) long. My heating engineer (who also handles plumbing) said we might encounter problems with the wastewater system, as we would either have to build a step in the floor near the window side to connect to the soil pipe (red point), or we would have to route the pipes through the ceiling to the ground floor, which would result in a support post in the kitchen area. Do you see any option to place the toilet in this position? Or do you have other suggestions for the bathroom layout that we might not have thought of yet?
The bathroom is 3 meters (10 feet) wide and 4 meters (13 feet) long, with a partition wall at 1.25 meters (4 feet). We have a door opening width of 75 cm (30 inches). There will also be a skylight installed on the sloped ceiling. The soil pipe is planned inside the 24 cm (9.5 inches) wall (red point).
2)
Are water supply pipes typically installed inside the walls or on the floor?
3)
In the living room area, we want recessed ceiling spotlights with a dropped ceiling made of drywall panels. This would reduce the room height to about 2.45 meters (8 feet). Alternatively, should we break out the concrete ceiling? Is it possible to build 11 courses of bricks instead of the usual 10.5 to gain some extra room height, and what additional costs should we expect for this increase?
Thank you very much in advance.
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toxicmolotof29 Dec 2014 15:11Regarding point 3: It is also possible to install ceiling spots with empty conduits and appropriate caps (for example, search for Halox) directly into a concrete ceiling, provided the structural engineer has no objections.
Regarding the bathroom: We had the same issue with the toilet drain, so we adjusted the bathroom layout to fit the drainage. Your planned bathroom now has exactly the same layout as ours currently, and I find this solution very good. I wouldn’t place the toilet next to the sink; having the toilet behind the shower works really well. We installed a skylight above the toilet area, which gained us a few extra centimeters of standing height.
About the ceiling spotlights: it’s best to plan them into the concrete ceiling from the start.
Regarding the floor plan: I would add a window near the staircase on the ground floor, otherwise the hallway becomes quite dark. What is the window in the utility room for? Why is it so large? It just takes up space here. Do you have a basement? If not, I would miss storage space here, so maybe consider a room under the stairs. That way, you can make good use of the space in front of the stairs, and under the stairs you could have a pantry or cleaning supplies storage.
Your dressing room is hardly usable as such because there isn’t enough wall space, and in the bedroom there’s no room to place a wardrobe with a depth of 60cm (24 inches) without bumping into it when entering the door. Whenever possible, plan doors with a clearance of 65-70cm (26-28 inches) from the wall so there’s room for a wardrobe behind them.
Otherwise, I quite like your room layout.
About the ceiling spotlights: it’s best to plan them into the concrete ceiling from the start.
Regarding the floor plan: I would add a window near the staircase on the ground floor, otherwise the hallway becomes quite dark. What is the window in the utility room for? Why is it so large? It just takes up space here. Do you have a basement? If not, I would miss storage space here, so maybe consider a room under the stairs. That way, you can make good use of the space in front of the stairs, and under the stairs you could have a pantry or cleaning supplies storage.
Your dressing room is hardly usable as such because there isn’t enough wall space, and in the bedroom there’s no room to place a wardrobe with a depth of 60cm (24 inches) without bumping into it when entering the door. Whenever possible, plan doors with a clearance of 65-70cm (26-28 inches) from the wall so there’s room for a wardrobe behind them.
Otherwise, I quite like your room layout.
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cheakyboy29 Dec 2014 20:05Thank you for your answers.
@ypg: Is it possible to install a 100 mm (4 inch) pipe in the ceiling/floor? You also need some space for the screed.
@Manu: Do you happen to have some pictures of your bathroom to take a look? There is a long window element planned in the hallway in the middle of the stairs, but unfortunately it was forgotten to be drawn in. I really like the idea of a closed staircase with the additional space—you’ve given me something to think about. I’ll also have to reconsider the window in the boiler room. We want a smaller one in the toilet, but one window should be enough in the boiler room, and we already have one on the front door side.
@BeHaElJa: The dimensions are 3.3 x 4.5 m (11 x 15 ft) and the walk-in closet is 1.6 x 3 m (5 x 10 ft). The walk-in closet is not very big, but unfortunately it’s not possible otherwise as far as we know. Our current walk-in closet is 1.4 m (4.5 ft), but that’s in a rental apartment. Would anyone have an idea?
By the way, we are building without a basement.
@ypg: Is it possible to install a 100 mm (4 inch) pipe in the ceiling/floor? You also need some space for the screed.
@Manu: Do you happen to have some pictures of your bathroom to take a look? There is a long window element planned in the hallway in the middle of the stairs, but unfortunately it was forgotten to be drawn in. I really like the idea of a closed staircase with the additional space—you’ve given me something to think about. I’ll also have to reconsider the window in the boiler room. We want a smaller one in the toilet, but one window should be enough in the boiler room, and we already have one on the front door side.
@BeHaElJa: The dimensions are 3.3 x 4.5 m (11 x 15 ft) and the walk-in closet is 1.6 x 3 m (5 x 10 ft). The walk-in closet is not very big, but unfortunately it’s not possible otherwise as far as we know. Our current walk-in closet is 1.4 m (4.5 ft), but that’s in a rental apartment. Would anyone have an idea?
By the way, we are building without a basement.
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