Hello,
this topic has already been discussed in the forum. However, I still cannot form a final opinion on it. Does a manifold system (MSH) really make sense or not? The alternative would be, for example, using PVC pipes in the basement, right? In the end, it all comes down to the same thing, or what is the added value of a manifold system? From there, the supply still needs to be distributed to the rest of the house anyway!?
Regards, SebastianH
this topic has already been discussed in the forum. However, I still cannot form a final opinion on it. Does a manifold system (MSH) really make sense or not? The alternative would be, for example, using PVC pipes in the basement, right? In the end, it all comes down to the same thing, or what is the added value of a manifold system? From there, the supply still needs to be distributed to the rest of the house anyway!?
Regards, SebastianH
SebastianH. schrieb:
Looking at it from the other side: are there any disadvantages to installing an MSH?Yes, 1,000 euros on top of 400,000 euros and upS
SebastianH.11 Sep 2020 12:59All right, thanks for the answers. From my point of view, installing an MSH does not provide any added value here. So these are costs that can be saved.
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daniel1985ffo15 Sep 2020 14:31We had to install one. It is required by the water supplier, gas supplier, and electricity supplier in our area.
It has already been clarified that there is no regulation requiring this for the original poster (OP). The question I still have is what practical advantage a multi-utility connection actually brings. I had to install one but I see no benefit.
It doesn’t matter whether you use sewer pipes (commonly called KG pipes in German) or a multi-utility connection if the installation is done poorly. I have seen more than once that during the installation of the water supply and telecommunications cables into the multi-utility pipes, the proper seals were not used; instead, the pipes were simply sealed with duct tape. You can just as well install a compression pipe seal in a sewer pipe as the one supplied with the multi-utility connection. The end result should be the same with PROPER installation: a sealed entry point for the supply lines into the house—except the multi-utility connection costs multiples of what a sewer pipe with a seal does.
The question is: Do I trust the supplier of the multi-utility connection, which is advertised as "tested safety," or do I trust a sewer pipe type that has proven itself in practice for decades? This has nothing to do with being outdated @Pierre – how many houses built in the thousands using this type of sewer pipe do you know of where it no longer serves its purpose today?
It doesn’t matter whether you use sewer pipes (commonly called KG pipes in German) or a multi-utility connection if the installation is done poorly. I have seen more than once that during the installation of the water supply and telecommunications cables into the multi-utility pipes, the proper seals were not used; instead, the pipes were simply sealed with duct tape. You can just as well install a compression pipe seal in a sewer pipe as the one supplied with the multi-utility connection. The end result should be the same with PROPER installation: a sealed entry point for the supply lines into the house—except the multi-utility connection costs multiples of what a sewer pipe with a seal does.
The question is: Do I trust the supplier of the multi-utility connection, which is advertised as "tested safety," or do I trust a sewer pipe type that has proven itself in practice for decades? This has nothing to do with being outdated @Pierre – how many houses built in the thousands using this type of sewer pipe do you know of where it no longer serves its purpose today?
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neo-sciliar17 Sep 2020 12:10The MSP – who actually installs it? The network operator or the shell builder? We are building without a basement, meaning the utility connections come from beneath the slab. However, the pipes for water and electricity then run in different directions…
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