Hello everyone,
Yesterday, we had an initial informational meeting with a solid construction house provider. Of course, we always ask where each provider sees THEIR advantage compared to other construction methods. He couldn’t give a very clear answer to that yesterday; instead, he mainly focused on presenting arguments against prefabricated timber frame houses.
In any case, he also said that most of the moisture enters the house through the screed, so it doesn’t really matter whether you build stone on stone (and expose yourself to weather risks) or quickly assemble the shell of a prefabricated house. The screed has to be laid on site and then dried anyway.
You often read that one advantage of a prefabricated house is the dry construction process in the factory, but is this actually offset again by the screed?
I appreciate any answers and thoughts on this.
Best regards,
Sandra
Yesterday, we had an initial informational meeting with a solid construction house provider. Of course, we always ask where each provider sees THEIR advantage compared to other construction methods. He couldn’t give a very clear answer to that yesterday; instead, he mainly focused on presenting arguments against prefabricated timber frame houses.
In any case, he also said that most of the moisture enters the house through the screed, so it doesn’t really matter whether you build stone on stone (and expose yourself to weather risks) or quickly assemble the shell of a prefabricated house. The screed has to be laid on site and then dried anyway.
You often read that one advantage of a prefabricated house is the dry construction process in the factory, but is this actually offset again by the screed?
I appreciate any answers and thoughts on this.
Best regards,
Sandra
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Bauexperte30 Apr 2014 11:41Hello Yvonne,
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Yes! It is a Schwörerhaus
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Thank you all for your responses!
I also believe that, in the end, it really depends on the chosen builder (and hopefully that won’t be an issue). We see advantages and disadvantages with both construction methods, and our preference keeps changing as we gather more information. I think we need to give ourselves a bit more time.
When reading about prefabricated houses with timber frame construction, you often hear that the wood gives a nice, warm feeling. I understand that this is probably a subjective impression, but is there some truth to it? I mean, most of the insulation is between the wooden studs—does the wood still have a tactile or olfactory effect? And what about wood-based panels—are these different from particleboard? What kind of adhesive is used to bond them?
Besides aiming for an energy-efficient house, living without harmful substances is extremely important to us. When we moved into our current rental, we had breathing problems for weeks because the parquet flooring (strip parquet) was apparently installed with very strong adhesive. Our landlord even told us afterwards that the installers wore respirators during the installation!
I also believe that, in the end, it really depends on the chosen builder (and hopefully that won’t be an issue). We see advantages and disadvantages with both construction methods, and our preference keeps changing as we gather more information. I think we need to give ourselves a bit more time.
When reading about prefabricated houses with timber frame construction, you often hear that the wood gives a nice, warm feeling. I understand that this is probably a subjective impression, but is there some truth to it? I mean, most of the insulation is between the wooden studs—does the wood still have a tactile or olfactory effect? And what about wood-based panels—are these different from particleboard? What kind of adhesive is used to bond them?
Besides aiming for an energy-efficient house, living without harmful substances is extremely important to us. When we moved into our current rental, we had breathing problems for weeks because the parquet flooring (strip parquet) was apparently installed with very strong adhesive. Our landlord even told us afterwards that the installers wore respirators during the installation!
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Brainpain19744 May 2014 12:08A solid masonry house, as the name suggests, is sturdy and, if built well, will still stand in 200 years. I don’t believe a prefabricated house can necessarily claim that. I would always choose to build brick by brick.
Now, regarding your question about screed: standard screed does introduce moisture into the house, but this usually dissipates after 5 to 7 days. Wallpaper and paint also contain moisture, and nobody really worries about that.
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Now, regarding your question about screed: standard screed does introduce moisture into the house, but this usually dissipates after 5 to 7 days. Wallpaper and paint also contain moisture, and nobody really worries about that.
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Doc.Schnaggls5 May 2014 10:03Brainpain1974 schrieb:
A solid masonry house, as the name suggests, is solid and, if built well, will still stand in 200 years. I don’t believe a prefabricated house necessarily will. I would always build stone on stone. Sorry, but that is really not a well-founded statement...
Take a look at the oldest houses in your town – they are probably timber-framed buildings, right?
What do you think the load-bearing structure of a timber frame house consists of?
Could it possibly be wooden studs?
One should not compare apples and oranges here. I wouldn’t want a cheap American-style particleboard box either, but I bet our high-quality timber frame house will last at least as long as a “solid” masonry building. I’ll deliberately leave aside the healthier indoor climate and better thermal insulation at the same wall thickness for now...
Just as a thought: two years ago, we experienced a noticeable earthquake with friends in Switzerland. Damage to their timber frame house: none. The immediate neighboring house (“solid masonry”): clearly visible cracks from the ridge down to the first floor level.
In the end, building a certain type of house is purely a gut decision, but one should at least respect others’ choices and avoid disparaging their building concept.
Best regards,
Dirk
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Brainpain19746 May 2014 21:42Doc.Schnaggls schrieb:
Sorry, that really isn’t a well-founded statement...
Just take a look at the oldest houses in your town – they’re probably timber-framed, right?
What do you think the load-bearing structure of a timber-framed house consists of?
Could it possibly be wooden studs?
Dirk Yes, of course it’s a timber frame; that’s why I’m dealing with so much work from rotten beams now. Unfortunately, you can’t see it under all the clad walls. I would have preferred a solid construction! And I should be allowed to express my opinion: if I were to build new, I would only use masonry, that’s just my choice of material.
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Doc.Schnaggls7 May 2014 06:53Of course, you are entitled to your opinion. However, based on your personal experience with one single property, generalizing all prefabricated houses in the same way is somewhat questionable.
I know some unstable and deteriorated "solid" houses that also suffer from moisture damage. Still, I do not claim that this is the case with all others...
I know some unstable and deteriorated "solid" houses that also suffer from moisture damage. Still, I do not claim that this is the case with all others...
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