ᐅ Missing documentation, inadequate advice – what are your thoughts on this?
Created on: 20 Mar 2010 22:16
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Sandy79
Hello and good evening,
I would like to buy a house through a developer. They are building a total of 12 units on a plot, including houses and detached houses.
Communication with the real estate agent has been very slow, and answers to specific questions are often vague. After requesting references, we didn’t hear back from him for about two weeks, although HR Hausbau from Gründau Lieblos is no beginner in the construction business and should certainly be able to provide some proof of experience.
Recently, we asked for the following documents:
1. Floor plans and cross-section of the building
2. Planning documents (plot with building, among others)
3. Soil report (including water contamination in the ground) and the building specification for the basement
4. Energy performance certificate, including evidence of thermal insulation
Apart from the building specification, the draft contract (with a notary from the developer’s side), and a few colored floor plans, we have nothing in hand.
The agent said that the developer does not perform soil sampling and that there is no energy compliance documentation because they are building according to the 2009 Energy Saving Ordinance. Furthermore, we don’t even have a cross-section of the house with dimensions, and the agent said that the building permit / planning permission has not yet been applied for the detached houses.
What do you think about this?
Which documents and inspections do you consider important for a new build?
I would be very grateful for many responses.
Merci and thank you in advance,
Sandy
I would like to buy a house through a developer. They are building a total of 12 units on a plot, including houses and detached houses.
Communication with the real estate agent has been very slow, and answers to specific questions are often vague. After requesting references, we didn’t hear back from him for about two weeks, although HR Hausbau from Gründau Lieblos is no beginner in the construction business and should certainly be able to provide some proof of experience.
Recently, we asked for the following documents:
1. Floor plans and cross-section of the building
2. Planning documents (plot with building, among others)
3. Soil report (including water contamination in the ground) and the building specification for the basement
4. Energy performance certificate, including evidence of thermal insulation
Apart from the building specification, the draft contract (with a notary from the developer’s side), and a few colored floor plans, we have nothing in hand.
The agent said that the developer does not perform soil sampling and that there is no energy compliance documentation because they are building according to the 2009 Energy Saving Ordinance. Furthermore, we don’t even have a cross-section of the house with dimensions, and the agent said that the building permit / planning permission has not yet been applied for the detached houses.
What do you think about this?
Which documents and inspections do you consider important for a new build?
I would be very grateful for many responses.
Merci and thank you in advance,
Sandy
Communication with the real estate agent has been very slow, and responses to specific questions are often vague. After requesting references, we didn’t hear back from him for two weeks, even though HR Hausbau from Gründau Lieblos is not new to the construction business and should certainly have something to prove.
Recently, we asked for the following documents:
1. Floor plans and cross-section of the building
2. Planning documents (property with building, among others)
3. Soil report (including water contamination in the ground) and the construction description of the basement
4. Energy certificate including the thermal insulation verification
Apart from the construction description, the draft contract (with the builder’s notary), and a few colorful floor plans, we have nothing in hand.
The agent said that the builder does not perform soil sampling and that there is no energy certificate (or energy plan) because they build according to the 2009 Energy Saving Ordinance. Furthermore, we don’t even have a cross-section of the house with measurements, and the agent also mentioned that the building permit/planning permission has not yet been applied for the detached houses.
Hello Sandy...
MY OPINION!!!
Vague answers are unacceptable, as is building without a soil report.
Without knowing the agent and not wanting to speak badly of him, I would recommend discussing your concerns openly with the agent.
Afterward, listen to your gut feeling and decide, because building a house is ALSO a matter of trust.
I believe building a house is a fundamental decision that can ruin livelihoods; if the agent is reputable, he will be transparent.
As mentioned in the previous comment, planning and other documents cost money, and unfortunately, many prospective buyers take advantage of goodwill and then build with others after the work is done. The construction industry is a shark tank, and many people get hurt in the process... sadly. I can understand this behavior to some extent.
From experience, I also know builders who provide these documents, like the plans, because they believe they have offered a good deal.
Recently, we asked for the following documents:
1. Floor plans and cross-section of the building
2. Planning documents (property with building, among others)
3. Soil report (including water contamination in the ground) and the construction description of the basement
4. Energy certificate including the thermal insulation verification
Apart from the construction description, the draft contract (with the builder’s notary), and a few colorful floor plans, we have nothing in hand.
The agent said that the builder does not perform soil sampling and that there is no energy certificate (or energy plan) because they build according to the 2009 Energy Saving Ordinance. Furthermore, we don’t even have a cross-section of the house with measurements, and the agent also mentioned that the building permit/planning permission has not yet been applied for the detached houses.
Hello Sandy...
MY OPINION!!!
Vague answers are unacceptable, as is building without a soil report.
Without knowing the agent and not wanting to speak badly of him, I would recommend discussing your concerns openly with the agent.
Afterward, listen to your gut feeling and decide, because building a house is ALSO a matter of trust.
I believe building a house is a fundamental decision that can ruin livelihoods; if the agent is reputable, he will be transparent.
As mentioned in the previous comment, planning and other documents cost money, and unfortunately, many prospective buyers take advantage of goodwill and then build with others after the work is done. The construction industry is a shark tank, and many people get hurt in the process... sadly. I can understand this behavior to some extent.
From experience, I also know builders who provide these documents, like the plans, because they believe they have offered a good deal.
Any updates?
Hello Sandy79,
I came across your post about HR Hausbau GmbH and the project in Obertshausen through a Google search. Has there been any new development for you? What conclusion have you reached? The reason for my interest is that we are involved in the same project you described.
Thanks and best regards,
Chris
Hello Sandy79,
I came across your post about HR Hausbau GmbH and the project in Obertshausen through a Google search. Has there been any new development for you? What conclusion have you reached? The reason for my interest is that we are involved in the same project you described.
Thanks and best regards,
Chris