My project is currently still purely theoretical. I am very interested in the construction methods mentioned in the title, and my design is a hybrid of these. The entire house will be built using PET and/or glass bottles, a construction method that makes the house not only extremely cost-effective but also very strong. The south side will feature the main entrance and windows, along with a kind of greenhouse extension. The rest of the house will be covered with earth if the plot is large enough. If not, the exterior walls will also be enclosed with a similar greenhouse structure. If a rooftop terrace is permitted by the building permit/planning permission, the upper floor will be accessible from the outside over a hill and later covered with a greenhouse-style construction. If a pitched roof is mandatory, glass bottles will be integrated into the walls, along with many or large windows on the upper floor, and glass tiles on the roof. If neither a hill nor a rooftop terrace is allowed or possible, I will try to find a different plot. If this also fails, the small house will simply be placed inside a greenhouse.
The foundation and basement are also planned to be built with PET bottles. I believe that stones/gravel, reinforcement mesh, PET bottles, and waterproof cement should be sufficient. However, I definitely need expert advice here, as the foundation is ultimately the most important part of the house. The interior will be equipped using various Earthship techniques to save and recycle energy and water.
As much as possible will be built by myself, including casting the glass roof tiles. I have a lot of time but very little money. Greenhouse attachments and extensions will be added gradually only after the house is habitable. I am also considering protecting the greenhouse glass against hail, either with a protective film or by using thick, self-cast glass tiles.
Solar panels and a spiral wind turbine for electricity generation are also of interest but are rather marginal. Energy storage is still very poor. So far, the only practical storage method seems to be electrolyzing water to store hydrogen in a large underground pressure tank, then converting it back to electricity via a fuel cell. Hydrogen storage in gels is also interesting but still in its infancy. I find batteries completely unsuitable as a storage medium—without them, self-sufficiency in electricity would be pointless.
I will design everything using CAD software, but first, I want to gather all the important data and hear some opinions.
I am very grateful for any suggestions and tips.
Planning restrictions/limitations
Plot size: 80 - 100 sqm (861 - 1,076 sq ft) or larger (dependent on price)
Slope: irrelevant
Floor area ratio: no plot available yet
Site coverage ratio: no plot available yet
Building envelope, building line and boundary: no plot available yet
Edge development: unlikely
Parking spaces: bicycles will be stored inside on the wall; no car
Number of floors: basement, ground floor, upper floor accessible—no attic
Roof type: flat and accessible or pitched roof with glass tiles
Style: eco-friendly small self-build house
Orientation: windows facing south, all other sides covered with earth or greenhouse
Maximum height limits: 3-4 meters (10-13 feet)
Other requirements
Client requirements
Style, roof type, building type: eco-modern, rooftop terrace, hill house
Basement, floors: basement, ground floor, upper floor
Number of occupants, age: 1 person, age 33
Room needs on ground and upper floor: flexible
Office, family use or home office?: no
Overnight guests per year: no dedicated room
Open or closed architecture: mixed form?
Conservative or modern construction: modern
Open kitchen, kitchen island: open kitchen
Number of dining seats: 1
Fireplace: possible
Music/sound wall: no full wall
Balcony, rooftop terrace: rooftop terrace
Garage, carport: no
Kitchen garden, greenhouse: yes, the house will be a mix of house, kitchen garden, and greenhouse
Other wishes, special features, daily routine
House design
Who designed it: various architects + myself
Do-it-yourself: yes
What is particularly appealing? Cost, energy efficiency, plants
What is not appealing? That will become clear once it is finished
Cost estimate according to architect/planner: 10,000-20,000 (own research)
Personal budget limit for house including fixtures: excluding fixtures 25,000 (fixtures will be made by myself or are already available)
Preferred heating system: passive
If you had to give up certain details or extensions
- What can you do without: basement if the building footprint is sufficient, rooftop terrace if not allowed due to planning restrictions
- What you cannot do without: the custom, eclectic design; if I cannot design or decide it myself, I don’t want to build it
The foundation and basement are also planned to be built with PET bottles. I believe that stones/gravel, reinforcement mesh, PET bottles, and waterproof cement should be sufficient. However, I definitely need expert advice here, as the foundation is ultimately the most important part of the house. The interior will be equipped using various Earthship techniques to save and recycle energy and water.
As much as possible will be built by myself, including casting the glass roof tiles. I have a lot of time but very little money. Greenhouse attachments and extensions will be added gradually only after the house is habitable. I am also considering protecting the greenhouse glass against hail, either with a protective film or by using thick, self-cast glass tiles.
Solar panels and a spiral wind turbine for electricity generation are also of interest but are rather marginal. Energy storage is still very poor. So far, the only practical storage method seems to be electrolyzing water to store hydrogen in a large underground pressure tank, then converting it back to electricity via a fuel cell. Hydrogen storage in gels is also interesting but still in its infancy. I find batteries completely unsuitable as a storage medium—without them, self-sufficiency in electricity would be pointless.
I will design everything using CAD software, but first, I want to gather all the important data and hear some opinions.
I am very grateful for any suggestions and tips.
Planning restrictions/limitations
Plot size: 80 - 100 sqm (861 - 1,076 sq ft) or larger (dependent on price)
Slope: irrelevant
Floor area ratio: no plot available yet
Site coverage ratio: no plot available yet
Building envelope, building line and boundary: no plot available yet
Edge development: unlikely
Parking spaces: bicycles will be stored inside on the wall; no car
Number of floors: basement, ground floor, upper floor accessible—no attic
Roof type: flat and accessible or pitched roof with glass tiles
Style: eco-friendly small self-build house
Orientation: windows facing south, all other sides covered with earth or greenhouse
Maximum height limits: 3-4 meters (10-13 feet)
Other requirements
Client requirements
Style, roof type, building type: eco-modern, rooftop terrace, hill house
Basement, floors: basement, ground floor, upper floor
Number of occupants, age: 1 person, age 33
Room needs on ground and upper floor: flexible
Office, family use or home office?: no
Overnight guests per year: no dedicated room
Open or closed architecture: mixed form?
Conservative or modern construction: modern
Open kitchen, kitchen island: open kitchen
Number of dining seats: 1
Fireplace: possible
Music/sound wall: no full wall
Balcony, rooftop terrace: rooftop terrace
Garage, carport: no
Kitchen garden, greenhouse: yes, the house will be a mix of house, kitchen garden, and greenhouse
Other wishes, special features, daily routine
House design
Who designed it: various architects + myself
Do-it-yourself: yes
What is particularly appealing? Cost, energy efficiency, plants
What is not appealing? That will become clear once it is finished
Cost estimate according to architect/planner: 10,000-20,000 (own research)
Personal budget limit for house including fixtures: excluding fixtures 25,000 (fixtures will be made by myself or are already available)
Preferred heating system: passive
If you had to give up certain details or extensions
- What can you do without: basement if the building footprint is sufficient, rooftop terrace if not allowed due to planning restrictions
- What you cannot do without: the custom, eclectic design; if I cannot design or decide it myself, I don’t want to build it
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toxicmolotof7 Aug 2015 08:26The green forum is very focused on ecology. However, I have some doubts that it will be enough to last an entire weekend. You really need more content for that.
Voki1 schrieb:
Please, please, please ... make sure to post it in the green forum as well. I’ve already prepared chips and soda. This would make a great weekend. And definitely don’t forget the floor plan.
If Schloss-Tempelhof succeeds with the first German Earthship, it should become significantly easier to build such houses afterwards. As far as I understand, the only requirements for the Earthship at Schloss Tempelhof are a suitable foundation for the floor and connection to water and sewage systems. The structural engineer costs 5,000 and is included in my budget. I don’t have much faith in architects, so I would rather hire a civil engineer. Please keep in mind that this is a very small house. Its size is comparable to a 50-75 m² (540-810 ft²) apartment. These alternative houses only become expensive if you do not build them yourself.
Regarding the stability of PET bottles: try compacting some PET bottles filled with sand or soil, add a few bricks, and conduct breaking and load tests. You will be amazed at how much PET bottles can withstand compared to bricks. The PET bottle houses in Africa are not called bomb-proof without reason. I really recommend googling these terms and watching some YouTube videos. I would post the appropriate links, but I do not want to risk being banned.
P.S. I am very grateful for constructive criticism, but I do not tolerate replies like “this will never work” without explanation.
Regarding the stability of PET bottles: try compacting some PET bottles filled with sand or soil, add a few bricks, and conduct breaking and load tests. You will be amazed at how much PET bottles can withstand compared to bricks. The PET bottle houses in Africa are not called bomb-proof without reason. I really recommend googling these terms and watching some YouTube videos. I would post the appropriate links, but I do not want to risk being banned.
P.S. I am very grateful for constructive criticism, but I do not tolerate replies like “this will never work” without explanation.
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Bauexperte7 Aug 2015 09:49Good morning,
When I read this yesterday, I immediately thought of KEN – back in the day, we used to call all the users in the photo forum who stirred up the forums with all kinds of nonsense that.
Aside from the fact that the “description” of this pipe dream is more than confusing – for example, what do you mean by the type of greenhouse? – there will be no building permit / planning permission for this project here in Germany. Of course, you could contact a professional funding institution like the Fraunhofer Institute® and see if your ideas are worthy of support.
Regards, Bauexperte
When I read this yesterday, I immediately thought of KEN – back in the day, we used to call all the users in the photo forum who stirred up the forums with all kinds of nonsense that.
Aside from the fact that the “description” of this pipe dream is more than confusing – for example, what do you mean by the type of greenhouse? – there will be no building permit / planning permission for this project here in Germany. Of course, you could contact a professional funding institution like the Fraunhofer Institute® and see if your ideas are worthy of support.
mystd schrieb:I can see that; your expectations for the house logically match the time factor.
I have a lot of time, unfortunately not much money.
mystd schrieb:You’re in luck, because from 01.04.2016 the subsidy amounts for KfW 40 and 40+ will change. With EUR 125,000 backing you, the fuel cell topic doesn’t have to remain a vision.
Price estimate according to architect/planner: 10,000–20,000 (own research)
Personal price limit for the house, including equipment: excluding equipment 25,000 (equipment will be self-made or already available)
Preferred heating technology: passive
Regards, Bauexperte
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Bauexperte7 Aug 2015 09:57mystd schrieb:
p.s. I am very grateful for constructive criticism, but I am not very tolerant of responses like: this won’t work, without any explanation. You still haven’t realized how tolerant the members of this forum are.
Regards, Bauexperte
mystd schrieb:
p.s. I am very grateful for constructive criticism, but not for replies like: this won’t workThis won’t work.