ᐅ Condensation inside the frame of new wooden windows

Created on: 12 Jan 2024 17:42
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FensterForce
Dear forum members,

I hope you can give me some advice on the following issues:
Last year, new wooden windows were installed in my 1950s old building. The entire building was completely renovated. The upper floor was fully insulated according to KFW standards, while the basement, supervised by a thermal insulation specialist/structural engineer, has no insulation but slightly more "permeable" windows.

Now that it is freezing and even last year, there have been recurring issues with water standing in the window frames. According to the window installer/joiner, this is not a problem, but it worries me.

The windows are properly adjusted and sealed. I have already tried adding an additional seal on the inside, but then the windows no longer close.

Does anyone have any advice? I would be very grateful as I am completely inexperienced here…

Also, on the seals of the casement doors, there are small white plastic plates. Are these necessary? Most of the windows do not have them.
Close-up of a white window frame with hinge; night view outside.

Close-up of a white door frame with metal lock, sealing edge, and water droplets at night.

Two white windows with horizontal blinds; left window has top light with blue sky.

White window frame with blind on the left, red locking lever, dark outside view.

Open window with white frame; view outside to blue evening sky, roof, and tree.

White interior window frame; open window with view of blue sky, blue roof, and cable.
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FensterForce
14 Jan 2024 11:16
Rumbi441 schrieb:

Condensation from showering and cooking? What does the hygrometer say?

I rather feel that it’s coming from outside.
We are now ventilating regularly, especially in the evening and morning (40-50%).
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Rumbi441
14 Jan 2024 13:56
50% at 18 degrees… could be problematic. To check if the water is coming from Susen, drip a little water on it, but I think it is coming from condensation.
Ibdk1414 Jan 2024 15:37
Could the mounting brackets of the pleated blinds still be causing the issue? I removed mine in the guest bathroom because the window no longer closed perfectly.
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Buschreiter
14 Jan 2024 15:54
Rumbi441 schrieb:

50% at 18 degrees… could be problematic. To test if the water comes from Susen… drip a little water on it, but I think it’s from condensation
The dew point at an indoor temperature of 18°C (64°F) and 50% relative humidity is 7.4°C (45°F)… I don’t see anything problematic there
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hanghaus2023
14 Jan 2024 17:38
Buschreiter schrieb:

The dew point at an indoor temperature of 18°C (64°F) and 50% relative humidity is 7.4°C (45°F)… I don’t see any issue with that.
Windows can get slightly colder than 7.4°C (45°F) during severe frost. Then water will condense on the glass.
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Buschreiter
14 Jan 2024 19:43
This model is called single glazing with frost pattern, but that is not the topic here! Have you ever measured the surface temperature on the inside of modern windows? I have, and fortunately, I did not observe such temperatures.