Good day!
This isn’t directly about house construction, but since many electrical experts read this forum: What would be a reasonable upper limit for an occasionally used appliance in the kitchen? A kettle typically has about 2 kW, and I believe that’s close to the maximum because it already draws nearly 9 A. Standard household outlets are rated for a continuous load of 10 A, as far as I know. If I were to connect a crepe maker with 3 kW, it would draw around 13 A, possibly for half an hour. That’s too much, right? So when choosing a crepe maker, it’s best to go for one with a power rating around 2 kW, isn’t it?
Matthias
This isn’t directly about house construction, but since many electrical experts read this forum: What would be a reasonable upper limit for an occasionally used appliance in the kitchen? A kettle typically has about 2 kW, and I believe that’s close to the maximum because it already draws nearly 9 A. Standard household outlets are rated for a continuous load of 10 A, as far as I know. If I were to connect a crepe maker with 3 kW, it would draw around 13 A, possibly for half an hour. That’s too much, right? So when choosing a crepe maker, it’s best to go for one with a power rating around 2 kW, isn’t it?
Matthias
Charging the car or making crepes? 🙂
I tend to be a bit more cautious with these things. Of course, I wouldn’t run a kettle on the same circuit at the same time. Still, I plan to limit myself to a 2 kW device.
By the way: My electric car can charge at 11 kW. For this purpose, I installed a dedicated 5x16 mm² (5x0.63 inch²) supply line because the garage is a bit farther from the house. For mobile charging using standard household outlets (which happens very rarely), I have a Juice Booster with various adapters that are coded to ensure the device never draws more power than allowed. So, when I use a Schuko plug, the charging current is automatically limited to 10 A. With a blue CEE plug, it’s 16 A, and with a large red CEE plug, it’s 32 A.
Many thanks to everyone involved!
Matthias
I tend to be a bit more cautious with these things. Of course, I wouldn’t run a kettle on the same circuit at the same time. Still, I plan to limit myself to a 2 kW device.
By the way: My electric car can charge at 11 kW. For this purpose, I installed a dedicated 5x16 mm² (5x0.63 inch²) supply line because the garage is a bit farther from the house. For mobile charging using standard household outlets (which happens very rarely), I have a Juice Booster with various adapters that are coded to ensure the device never draws more power than allowed. So, when I use a Schuko plug, the charging current is automatically limited to 10 A. With a blue CEE plug, it’s 16 A, and with a large red CEE plug, it’s 32 A.
Many thanks to everyone involved!
Matthias
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KarstenausNRW20 Jan 2023 08:13Pianist schrieb:
Well, I tend to be a bit more cautious with these things. This has nothing to do with caution. It’s simply irrational fear. Like retirees who drive through town at 22 mph (35 km/h) because they’re scared.
Buy a proper device with adequate power, and that’s it. Anything with a standard Schuko plug can be safely connected. The device will only draw full power during the warm-up phase (about 5 minutes), after which you can leave it on for hours since it only maintains the temperature.
P.S. Please get rid of your oven quickly. It most likely draws up to 3.6 kW (3.6 kW) and is plugged into a regular outlet with a Schuko plug. It’s a miracle your place is still standing! *Irony off*
xMisterDx schrieb:
Electric car manufacturers naturally limit continuous current to the 10A specified by the relevant standard.Most electric cars can draw 16A single-phase. However, the included EU AC chargers are limited to 13A single-phase. But if the vehicle does not specify otherwise, they will draw that current continuously.KarstenausNRW schrieb:
Please get rid of your oven immediately. It probably draws up to 3.6 kW and is only connected to a standard outlet with a Schuko plug. Since when are ovens/ranges connected via Schuko plugs? They are usually hardwired with three-phase power.
MayrCh schrieb:
Most electric cars can draw 16A single-phase. Well, most probably can’t anymore these days. I find that quite unfortunate with the Ioniq. My Tesla Model 3 charges with up to 11 kW three-phase.
Matthias
Hello,
A standalone oven typically draws no more than 2.5–3 kW and is connected to the mains through a standard outlet. The cooktop can easily have a power rating of 5–9 kW and is then hardwired with three-phase power.
This is quite normal with the common separation of oven and cooktop nowadays.
Best regards,
Andreas
Pianist schrieb:
Since when are ovens/stoves connected via Schuko plugs? They are usually hardwired with three-phase power.
A standalone oven typically draws no more than 2.5–3 kW and is connected to the mains through a standard outlet. The cooktop can easily have a power rating of 5–9 kW and is then hardwired with three-phase power.
This is quite normal with the common separation of oven and cooktop nowadays.
Best regards,
Andreas
Pianist schrieb:
Well, most probably aren’t anymore today. I think that’s quite a shame with the Ioniq.I don’t quite follow you. 16A per phase is actually standard for AC. The Ioniq (without the 5) just charges with 2-phase on the (AC wallbox).Similar topics