ᐅ Mark the airspace – build directly enclosed (approximately 6–7 m²)?
Created on: 23 Aug 2025 22:41
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dereks123
Hello everyone,
In our new build, the living area is calculated quite tightly. My architect said it’s not a problem to include an open space (about 6–7 m² (65–75 sq ft)) in the building permit / planning permission application to meet the required living area, and then actually build it as a fully closed space. He said this is common practice and usually not checked. It’s a new development area.
I’m interested in:
In our new build, the living area is calculated quite tightly. My architect said it’s not a problem to include an open space (about 6–7 m² (65–75 sq ft)) in the building permit / planning permission application to meet the required living area, and then actually build it as a fully closed space. He said this is common practice and usually not checked. It’s a new development area.
I’m interested in:
- Is this really common?
- Has anyone had experience with this (final inspection, later sale, insurance, etc.)?
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Siedler3425 Aug 2025 21:06MachsSelbst schrieb:
That’s theory from your “Project Management for Beginners” guides, but it doesn’t really reflect reality 😉
According to that logic, anyone who ever paid a craftsman under the table would be, in spirit, a bad criminal capable of even worse misdeeds...
Tell me, do you sometimes drive 52 instead of 50 in the city? 😀 I share your view on those who pay under the table as you described it. That is criminal and rightly punished severely. Undeclared work is not a minor offense, but a criminal act that harms everyone.
In contrast to a speeding violation in the range mentioned, which is at most an administrative offense.
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wiltshire25 Aug 2025 21:23MachsSelbst schrieb:
Tell me, do you sometimes drive 52 instead of 50 in the city? 😀 I'm definitely no saint, if that's what you mean.
An architect who suggests I break building regulations just because everyone does so doesn't meet my standards.
Not because I consider breaking regulations "unforgivable," but because it makes me suspicious.
I choose my business partners carefully. Nothing more, nothing less.
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HuppelHuppel26 Aug 2025 17:35MachsSelbst schrieb:
I think building authorities are overrated in this regard; they approve the applications and are glad to be done with the building permit / planning permission process.Apart from a few experienced ones, you mostly find civil engineers outside who don’t notice anything. The authorities are all overwhelmed and understaffed.
Why are building authorities using drones? They should connect with the land management offices, which have very detailed orthophotos of the entire territory and staff who monitor these daily for topographical changes. If these official bodies were assigned to also check location XY and report to Z when necessary, they would quickly accumulate many cases that could be followed up on. In fact, this is not done because the limited staff have other, more important priorities.