ᐅ Creating a Plan for Insulating an Old Building – How to Proceed?

Created on: 30 Aug 2022 10:30
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Tobibi
Hello,

I’m currently trying to make a plan for how to best improve the insulation of our house. I hope I can write everything down clearly so that some of you might be able to give me tips or suggest different approaches.

We bought a large house from 1982, about 200 sqm (2,150 sq ft) of living space. There is an approximately 6-year-old heat pump for heating and hot water, and a small wood stove in the living room. The ground floor and first floor have underfloor heating, while three basement rooms and a converted room above the garage have radiators. These radiators have a separate heating circuit with their own flow temperature and are rarely used, actually not at all in the basement.

In the main bedroom on the first floor, the previous owner opened the ceiling a few years ago, creating a high space that goes up to the roof ridge. The roof was insulated at that time, but I don’t have any documentation on how well. The rest of the house remains in its original condition, so basically uninsulated.

The walls are solid brick. The wooden windows have double glazing. Many windows and the front door do not seal well, allowing noticeable drafts at some windows. The top floor ceiling is not concrete but made of joists, covered underneath on the first floor with drywall and boards on top. Between the joists, there appears to be rock wool insulation packed in.

We have a 9 kWp photovoltaic system with battery storage, which the previous owner also installed. As it currently stands, the electricity from the photovoltaic system cannot be used for the heat pump, only for other household electricity. There is a separate meter with a heating electricity contract. Surplus electricity is fed back into the grid.

I recently received the heating electricity bill, showing that from March 2021 to March 2022—one full year—we used about 12,500 kWh for heating and hot water, which I find quite high. I definitely want to take action, especially since electricity prices are rising sharply. I’m not an experienced DIYer, but I can assist and have very helpful father and father-in-law who have a lot of skills. So, some things could be done ourselves, although time is always a factor.

A no-brainer seems to be replacing the window seals and adjusting them so they close tightly again. I am already in contact with a company for this.
Next, I’m thinking about insulating the roller shutter boxes. I would probably get a company to do this as well.
I’m considering insulating the basement ceiling with insulation boards that can be glued or fixed with plugs. If there are instructions available, we would rather do that ourselves. Or should I focus on insulating the top floor ceiling or installing insulation between the rafters? Or both? Probably not at the same time—maybe one this year and the other in a year or two. What would be the better order?

Would it make sense to modify the photovoltaic system so that the electricity can be used for the heat pump? I would have to hire an electrician for that, which costs money. But then the electricity would be usable for heating, and there would be only one basic fee. On the other hand, the yield in winter is not very good, and I would lose the cheaper heating electricity tariff. I once tracked generated, fed-in, self-used, and purchased electricity over a longer period and basically concluded that the conversion might not be worthwhile. But now electricity prices are rising dramatically.

Insulating the facade and/or installing new windows is honestly too expensive for me right now. On the other hand, we will need to have the entire exterior repainted next year or the year after. That costs several thousand when done professionally, which would almost offset the cost of external wall insulation. But presumably, these two should go together—insulation and new windows—because doing only one is not sensible and could cause problems with condensation.

So, that turned out to be quite a long message. I hope it’s understandable. How would you proceed? If I forgot anything, just ask. I might also add a follow-up later.

Best regards,
Tobi
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Adam2112
1 Sep 2022 13:46
SaniererNRW123 schrieb:

And where can you buy the miracle product?
It’s only available at AZ Real Estate’s shop. I just noticed that the prices have gone up a bit. They also offer more versions for interior use, for example, and for floors. But those are only available on request.
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Buschreiter
19 Dec 2022 22:32
Adam2112 schrieb:

This is only available at AZ Real Estate in their store. I just noticed that the prices have increased slightly. They also have more options for interior use, for example, and for flooring. However, these are only available on request.
Hello Adam, unfortunately I couldn’t find any information about the thermal insulation value (WLG) or similar details on the website. I would be interested if I could find something about that. Since I assume you are the managing director of AZ Hochbau GmbH, I’m sure you can help me with this?
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SoL
20 Dec 2022 02:27
...I would also be interested in the certificate from the Polish TÜV Nord. Unfortunately, I can't find anything about this product on their website (maybe I searched incorrectly, as I navigated using Google Translate...).
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Adam2112
20 Dec 2022 09:13
Buschreiter schrieb:

Hello Adam, unfortunately I couldn't find any information about the WLG or similar on the website. I would be interested if I could find something on that. Assuming you are the managing director of AZ Hochbau GmbH, could you possibly help me?

Good morning, sure.
My mistake. Well researched.
The lambda values are listed there, which basically corresponds to the WLG (thermal conductivity class). They refer to the complete system, finished on the wall, not individual products. In the description of the 1m² (10.8 sq ft) complete package under the link about the advantages, there is a demonstration video, as well as a description of the system and a downloadable document with properties, references, etc.

Best regards and talk to you later
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Adam2112
20 Dec 2022 09:48
SoL schrieb:

...I would also be interested in the certificate from the Polish TÜV Nord. Unfortunately, I can't find anything about this product on their website (maybe I searched incorrectly, as I navigated using Google Translate...)

The TÜV has certified the factory to confirm that all standards are met and was involved in all the scientific evaluations of the values. Ultimately, we need to have verified evidence before these can be made public.

For the more skeptical among us, there are also small samples with the interior material reduced by a factor of four; even a very thin layer is already noticeable.
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Buschreiter
20 Dec 2022 12:08
I am interested in this mainly for insulating my basement ceiling. The 12 cm (5 inches) with a thermal conductivity of 0.035 W/(m·K) required for funding under the BEG program is quite substantial. Is it possible to receive the funding when applying the interior coating (let’s call it that)? That would be really interesting…