ᐅ Is main lighting with LED strips practical?

Created on: 27 Jul 2021 15:03
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JürgenJosef
Hello,
has anyone ever installed the main lighting in a house or apartment using LED strips?
Possibly integrated into a drywall ceiling and walls?
Or is that too prone to issues?
What should definitely be considered during the planning stage?
The apartment consists of a bedroom, bathroom, two kids’ rooms, hallway, storage room, guest toilet, and a combined living, dining, and kitchen area, as well as a balcony, with a total living area of 106 m² (1141 sq ft).
Thank you very much for your advice.
JürgenJosef

Grundriss einer Wohnung mit Wohn-/Esszimmer, Zimmer 1, Zimmer 2, Schlafzimmer, Küche, Bad.
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JürgenJosef
21 Aug 2021 11:19
Because of the costs, it's a bit difficult. The ceiling without coves and lighting was included in the project. The electrician still needs to provide input on how he plans to handle the lighting control. Dimming will be added, as well as the cable installation to the distribution box. I can only afford all of this because the ceiling without lighting was already part of the project. Otherwise, it would be way too expensive. Just the lighting installation as described above, including power supplies, will cost around 20,000 € (about 22,000 USD). I will meet the electrician about this in two weeks.
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JürgenJosef
21 Aug 2021 11:21
Of course, there is always the cheapest Chinese-made goods, but complaints are inevitable. That is why my kitchen installer no longer includes LED strips in the kitchen. Only a few are willing to pay the necessary price for high-quality products.
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ypg
21 Aug 2021 11:40
JürgenJosef schrieb:

whether the output of LED strips is sufficient to replace traditional ceiling lamps, which is actually my intention.

I believe the issue is more that a person needs the light source “near them,” not on the wall.
When I work, search for something, or live my daily life, I prefer the artificial light source to be at or behind me rather than in front. It also needs to be able to brighten the shadows created by daylight. This usually happens more towards the center of the room than at the walls.

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NoggerLoger schrieb:

In the living room combined with the dining area.

Your lens or the post-processing distorts your room quite unrealistically 😉
untergasse4321 Aug 2021 11:53
JürgenJosef schrieb:

It still needs to be determined which KNX system (Busch-Jäger or Jung) or which lighting control system should be used.

Is this outdated information really still around? Other manufacturers offer significantly better dimmers or LED controllers. However, the DALI-KNX gateway from Jung is good (it is an OEM product anyway).
JürgenJosef schrieb:

Especially regarding lighting control: via DALI, or DALI + KNX, or DMX, or 1-10 V control?

You can forget about DMX and 0-10 V right away. They don’t make sense here, and DMX is really no fun in a private home. Whether DALI or KNX (if you already have KNX, standalone DALI is not really an option) is purely a matter of calculation. DALI becomes financially worthwhile for pure white dimming circuits starting at about 25–30 circuits, and much earlier for RGB(W). In practice, regardless of the number of lighting circuits, it can already make sense if, due to the power supply, you have several circuits that should function together as one (for example, long coves in large rooms). Such groupings are easier to handle with DALI than with KNX.
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JürgenJosef
21 Aug 2021 12:18
DALI would only be an option for me if I decided to do without KNX. The lighting circuits in our apartment are quite manageable. I don’t have much knowledge in this area and have to rely on recommendations, but I also believe that the combination of DALI and KNX could be more expensive than pure KNX alone and may not offer many advantages.
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JürgenJosef
21 Aug 2021 12:33
ypg schrieb:

I think the issue is more that a person needs the light source “with them,” not on the wall.
When I work, search for something, or live in a space, I prefer the artificial light source to be near or behind me rather than in front. It also needs to be able to brighten the shadows caused by daylight. This usually happens more in the center than on the walls.

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Your lens or the post-processing distorts your room quite unrealistically 😉

What do you mean by saying that the room is distorted unrealistically?