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Egon der 3.17 Aug 2023 14:34Hello,
we would like to install recessed spotlights in the eaves box of a timber-framed house to illuminate the facade.
What should I pay attention to? The lights will be installed at a height of 4 meters (13 feet), so replacing the bulbs will not be easy. Are fixtures with integrated light sources more reliable?
The eaves box and the house are made of wood, so overheating or fire would be disastrous. Where can I find good quality products? It can also be somewhat expensive.
Thank you very much for your help!
Egon der 3
we would like to install recessed spotlights in the eaves box of a timber-framed house to illuminate the facade.
What should I pay attention to? The lights will be installed at a height of 4 meters (13 feet), so replacing the bulbs will not be easy. Are fixtures with integrated light sources more reliable?
The eaves box and the house are made of wood, so overheating or fire would be disastrous. Where can I find good quality products? It can also be somewhat expensive.
Thank you very much for your help!
Egon der 3
Why do you want the lighting? Is it needed for functionality, or is it just to highlight the house?
Grazing light makes the facade look terrible. I wouldn’t do it unless it’s a castle or something similar. Let’s not even talk about light pollution, etc.
Four meters (13 feet) is not a problem with a tall ladder.
With good fixtures, you can replace the bulbs, and spare parts are available for 10 to 20 years.
What about light temperature, beam angle, lumens...?
They absolutely must be suitable for outdoor use.
Grazing light makes the facade look terrible. I wouldn’t do it unless it’s a castle or something similar. Let’s not even talk about light pollution, etc.
Four meters (13 feet) is not a problem with a tall ladder.
With good fixtures, you can replace the bulbs, and spare parts are available for 10 to 20 years.
What about light temperature, beam angle, lumens...?
They absolutely must be suitable for outdoor use.
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Buchsbaum18 Aug 2023 21:58I have also installed Paulmann LED recessed spotlights in the eaves boxes. Each one is 7 watts, which is almost too powerful.
Basically, they are trouble-free; they have been in place for over 10 years now and I have hardly ever had any issues.
I believe they are specifically designed for outdoor use and have an IP65 rating. The only problem is that 2 or 3 units start to flicker when the temperature drops below minus 10 degrees Celsius (14°F). I’m not sure why that happens. I installed a total of 9 units around the house on 3 eaves sides and on an outbuilding, with one side each controlled by a motion sensor. This way, no one can approach the house unnoticed at night. I am quite satisfied with this solution.
The LED spotlights run directly on 230V without a transformer. However, the light source cannot be replaced; if it fails, the entire spotlight must be replaced. Each unit cost around 30 euros, so it’s not cheap.
Basically, they are trouble-free; they have been in place for over 10 years now and I have hardly ever had any issues.
I believe they are specifically designed for outdoor use and have an IP65 rating. The only problem is that 2 or 3 units start to flicker when the temperature drops below minus 10 degrees Celsius (14°F). I’m not sure why that happens. I installed a total of 9 units around the house on 3 eaves sides and on an outbuilding, with one side each controlled by a motion sensor. This way, no one can approach the house unnoticed at night. I am quite satisfied with this solution.
The LED spotlights run directly on 230V without a transformer. However, the light source cannot be replaced; if it fails, the entire spotlight must be replaced. Each unit cost around 30 euros, so it’s not cheap.
I would lean more towards IP 67. However, it could also be a connection issue if it flickers, or the power supply might be poor quality. It’s probably just not rated for low temperatures. 30 euros is not expensive.
Depending on the dimmability and so on, costs can quickly reach three figures. We also have recessed spotlights in the aluminum facade. With a DALI power supply, a single spotlight costs about 500€. In that case, every component can be replaced individually, and you are guaranteed 25 years of spare part availability.
Depending on the dimmability and so on, costs can quickly reach three figures. We also have recessed spotlights in the aluminum facade. With a DALI power supply, a single spotlight costs about 500€. In that case, every component can be replaced individually, and you are guaranteed 25 years of spare part availability.
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xMisterDx19 Aug 2023 00:05What is the added value of IP67 in the roof soffit? IP65 provides protection against water jets from any direction, while IP67 means protection against temporary immersion.
Of course, you can go all out and buy ultra-premium products so that a spotlight still works during those 3 days per year at -25°C (−13°F)... or you can get a spotlight for 30 or 40 EUR and simply replace it after 10 to 15 years.
Having spare parts available for 25 years sounds great, but if the company goes bankrupt tomorrow, that guarantee becomes questionable.
And in 15 years, there might already be something better...
Of course, you can go all out and buy ultra-premium products so that a spotlight still works during those 3 days per year at -25°C (−13°F)... or you can get a spotlight for 30 or 40 EUR and simply replace it after 10 to 15 years.
Having spare parts available for 25 years sounds great, but if the company goes bankrupt tomorrow, that guarantee becomes questionable.
And in 15 years, there might already be something better...
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Buchsbaum19 Aug 2023 09:57The Paulmann spotlights operate without an external power supply. Each spotlight has it built in. On the connection side, it’s 230 volts.
I’m not a billionaire either to buy a recessed spotlight for 500 euros. The Paulmann spotlights are completely sufficient and, most importantly, provide a nice, warm light. That was important to me.
I’m not a billionaire either to buy a recessed spotlight for 500 euros. The Paulmann spotlights are completely sufficient and, most importantly, provide a nice, warm light. That was important to me.
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