ᐅ Looking for design ideas for a semi-detached house floor plan.

Tichu78 schrieb:
I will soon post several different solutions (like you did) and hope to receive constructive feedback on their advantages and disadvantages.

Do you want to reinvent the wheel now?

ypg schrieb:
I tried to make it clear to you that your requirements contradict each other or simply don’t work when you limit the specifications for a semi-detached house as much as you do...

Unfortunately, I still haven’t understood that. There is a design that meets my requirements quite well. Or what do you think is not fulfilled?

ypg schrieb:
and here it is obvious that the allocation of the square meters and living quality is better with side windows and access from the front

I don’t quite see it that way. The area in front of the house is very inconvenient. The two parking spaces are arranged one behind the other... very frustrating when the parked car blocking the other one needs to be used. I can’t carry groceries into the house without getting wet. Then, on the ground floor, I have a long, dark hallway, and the layout in the living area isn’t any better. On the upper floor, I definitely have an advantage because the children’s room faces west and therefore gets more light. Both designs have their pros and cons... personally, the advantages of the side entrance are more important to me.

ypg schrieb:
the information that the staircase is separated from the living area

Sorry, my fault!

ypg schrieb:
Regarding your requirements for the WC, from memory "small but nice", you criticize the size at 2 m² (our last WC was 1.2 m² (13 sq ft)...), for a closed cloakroom 1 m² (11 sq ft) is definitely enough (without seasonal jackets, with them then estimated 2.5)

Well, I don’t want to have to contort myself three times just to sit down. At 1.2 m² (13 sq ft), the door has to open outwards... that would be an option. It just looks a bit unusual from the hallway if the door is installed that way.

ypg schrieb:
But they work and, in my opinion, work better than your variants!

And there we simply have a difference of opinion (hence the comment about designing the semi-detached house the way you would like it). I think it’s very hard to be completely neutral here.

ypg schrieb:
You need space for ironing!

Our iron is only used for job interviews and celebrations.
Maybe I’m just resistant to advice? Or maybe it’s simply a desire for something different. With the northern entrance, the floor plan is really very standard, and if that is an option, then the kitchen and dining area should be on the south side. *Sigh*

Tichu78 schrieb:
There is a design that quite well meets my requirements. Or what do you think is not fulfilled?

I’m having a hard time following you now. Are you referring to the design you created? #22:

Tichu78 schrieb:
The only solution that would make sense is something like this:

Here you have a long, dark hallway (you wanted it welcoming), the cloakroom under the stairs is smaller than my suggestion (see V1...), upstairs you don’t have an office where a cabinet is supposed to be, your bedroom has a roof window and is larger than my proposal, your bathroom is smaller...

Tichu78 schrieb:
I don’t quite see it that way. The situation at the front of the house is very inconvenient. The two parking spaces are arranged one behind the other... very annoying if the car in front is blocked and you need to use the car behind. I can’t carry groceries into the house without getting wet. Then I have a longer, dark hallway on the ground floor and the layout of the living area isn’t better either. Upstairs I definitely have an advantage, since the children’s room faces west and therefore gets more light. Both designs have their pros and cons... for me personally, the advantages of the side entrance are more important.

Again, I can’t follow you, because I don’t know exactly what you’re referring to, and your plot is still not entirely clear to us, since you haven’t provided any details other than the width.

Tichu78 schrieb:
With only 1.2 m² (13 ft²), the door has to open outward... that would be an option. It just looks a bit unusual from the hallway if the door is installed that way.

That is actually quite common and should not be overemphasized in the hallway, especially since I arranged two identical doors side by side there.

Tichu78 schrieb:
Our iron is only used for job interviews and celebrations.

Oops… well then...

Are you perhaps resistant to advice? Maybe???

Regards, Yvonne

Tichu78 schrieb:
Do you have to take your pants off in the hallway, too?

At least with toilets that have outward-opening doors, a) you can enter the room and b) use the toilet and washbasin.
With your "designs," that’s not the case.

And in your design #49, your toilet is narrower than mine.

So then: I’m out! This back-and-forth with your arguments, which you then contradict yourself, isn’t really my thing and gets us nowhere.

ypg schrieb:
This back and forth with your arguments, which you then contradict yourself, isn’t really my thing and doesn’t lead anywhere.

The reason my arguments change is simply that I’m still in a learning phase ops:. I’m learning a lot here and keep realizing that my arguments and ideas aren’t always practical. That’s the biggest benefit I’ve gotten from discussing with you so far .
I understand if that can be annoying

How am I supposed to know how the 1.2 m² (13 sq ft) are laid out? 1 m x 1.2 m (3 ft x 4 ft)? 2 m x 0.6 m (6.5 ft x 2 ft)? How big the toilet bowl and the sink are?
The WC size was only meant to roughly fit in the drafts. You usually handle all that later with the planner. Likewise, I don’t know yet where ideally the water supply and drainage should be. If 1.2 m² (13 sq ft) is enough, that’s fine by me. If 2.5 m² (27 sq ft) is better, then so be it. I don’t understand why this has to be such a back and forth? Most designs allocate about 2-3 m² (22-32 sq ft) for the WC, so I just took that to be on the safe side. A width of 1 m (3 ft) seems to be a minimum. But I’m probably completely off track =>

ypg schrieb:
In your “drafts” that’s not the case.

“Small and functional” simply means big enough to move around comfortably; with 1.2 m² (13 sq ft), I just can’t imagine how that would be comfortable. It might work, but that’s not the point.

Much more important is the layout of the rooms!!! I’m not designing a kitchen and then discussing the arrangement of the compartments in a drawer. What matters is where the drawer is located, how wide and long it is, so I know if there is enough cutlery space. That’s exactly the kind of input I would have liked from you.

You obviously have a much more detailed and different focus on such a design than I do. That’s probably why I (still) don’t understand you. Sorry! Still, thanks again for trying to help me!

Hmm, if I may summarize:
- Semi-detached house (already a bit unsettling – but okay)
- The budget is already insufficient
- Your floor plan is full of design flaws
- All other suggestions (which make much more sense) are ignored or rejected.

So, this situation is pretty complicated, I would say.