ᐅ Looking for Bathroom Design Optimization

Created on: 20 Jun 2016 10:14
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Dan8070
Hello everyone,

Attached are our measurements (these are basically fixed; theoretically, we have an extra 55cm (22 inches) of space towards the bedroom, but we have planned in our dresser there ;-) ) and the question if anyone has any suggestions.

We like well:
- the walk-in shower (will be extended to 110cm (43 inches) in width)
- the space between the sink and the bathtub – currently, we have the exact opposite, and generous space for four people is a must
- the bathtub with a partial wall (not yet shown here) towards the floor-to-ceiling cabinet

Works somewhat:
- the solution with the laundry chute in the corner… it shouldn’t get wet given the distance to the shower. We don’t have much room here (except for about 15cm (6 inches) in height up to the step) as it must pass through the pantry below
- toilet arrangement… a width of 90cm (35 inches) should be enough according to the planner… of course, we would prefer it to be a bit more concealed

If you have any improvements in mind, we would be grateful; it doesn’t have to be a T-layout!

Thanks!

2D-Grundriss eines Hauses mit Bad und Schlafzimmer, Maßangaben sichtbar.
Dan807020 Jun 2016 11:08
Jochen104 schrieb:
A quick tip:
Villeroy & Boch offers a good online bathroom planner. You can experiment with different layouts and visualize everything in 3D.

Thanks for the tip, we will take a look!
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20 Jun 2016 11:14
Dan8070 schrieb:
Nicole, I always feel a bit apprehensive before reading your response... You’ve already caused me a few sleepless nights with various feedback. ;-) But I don’t mean that negatively at all; I really appreciate that you share your honest opinion... that’s how a forum should be. :-)

Okay, so:
Toilet rough opening width 1.05 m (3 ft 5 in),
Shower rough opening depth 1.55 m (5 ft 1 in) up to the passage

The space needed for the cabinet depends on the bathtub size in our case... we have a sanitary fixture selection appointment in two weeks. Then, on the left and right, shelving (about the width of the tiles... roughly 30 cm (12 inches)), then a full-height partition wall, and finally, a custom cabinet made by a carpenter for the remaining niche. That’s our plan.

Oops... Actually not Nicole... Yvonne 🙂
And I’ll take that as a compliment 😉

The length of the shower can vary somewhat, as can the passage, but the width should not be planned any smaller. Our rough opening width is one meter (3 ft 3 in), which is still adequate.
So definitely make a sketch!
Jochen10420 Jun 2016 11:15
Dan8070 schrieb:
I always feel nervous before reading your reply, Nicole..
You probably mean Yvonne 😉
Jochen10420 Jun 2016 11:18
Dan8070 schrieb:
Our general contractor suggests a minimum shower depth of 150–160 cm (60–63 inches) to prevent water from rain showers splashing out in front.

Correct.
Dan8070 schrieb:
The wall should be full height towards the washbasins; about 220 cm (87 inches) towards the toilet.

Why not just 2.20 m (87 inches) for the entire wall?
Dan8070 schrieb:
Width of toilet during shell construction 1.05,

That is definitely enough.
Dan807020 Jun 2016 11:40
How did I even come up with Nicole?!? 🙄
Of course, Yvonne...

We will pass your suggestions on to the designer and reduce the shower depth by 5-10 cm (2-4 inches) to give more space to the toilet.
We think a width of 110 cm (43 inches) would be good since we have the space between the washbasin and the bathtub.

Good question about the 2.20 m (7 ft 3 in) knee wall instead of floor-to-ceiling... What do you see as the advantages and disadvantages? Is it just about the appearance? Between the shower and toilet, it’s clear that there needs to be some open space because of moisture.
Jochen10420 Jun 2016 13:47
Dan8070 schrieb:
We would prefer a width of 110 since we do have the space between the shower enclosure and the bathtub.

We have a shower that is 1 meter (3.3 feet) wide and are very happy with it. You always stand centered anyway.
When considering the width of the wall, you should also take the planned washbasin into account. For example, we have a basin that is 1.30 meters (4.3 feet) wide. Next to it, there should be towel racks on each side, so the washbasin wall should be at least 1.60–1.70 meters (5.2–5.6 feet) wide. But with the shower depth of 1.60 meters (5.2 feet), that should be the case.
Dan8070 schrieb:
Good question about the 2.20 meter (7.2 feet) half-height partition instead of full height... What do you see as the pros and cons? Purely aesthetic? Between the shower and the toilet it’s clear that there has to be some openness because of moisture.

We opted for the full 2.20 meters (7.2 feet). That way, the electrician can install a standard power outlet on the other side.
In my opinion, besides air circulation, the benefits also include natural light entering the shower area. Although we still turn on the light when showering during the day, it also feels friendlier when entering the bathroom if the shower isn’t a dark space. 🙂